What Tobaccos do You Not Cellar?

[turtlehead]

Curious if there's any tobaccos that just are better straight out of the tin, without any age on them.


Love the idea of aging stuff - but I've seen enough comments on certain tobaccos not being as good with age as others, it got me wondering what's best smoked right away.

Coming from wine, I feel like everything we buy needs more age - and of course, there are some that will get on better as more age comes and some not as well - but there's not much wine out there that can't use some added age.

 

[DanWil84]

The general premise is that most aro's don't age well if you want them to be aromatics and taste like one.

Funny you mention wine; I love Beaujolais. I have once forgotten a bottle of Beaujolais and pulled the cork, wasn't as good as fresh or with no more than year on it. So that's an example of wine which doesnt do well with time.

 

[fireground_piper]

I don’t buy anything specifically to age. If I don’t like it fresh, I won’t buy stock in it.

So far the aromatics I like are at the 3-4 year mark and are just fine. I keep everything in cool climates and complete darkness to hopefully delay any aging honestly.

 

[Donb1972]

I don't really buy anything to age. I have jarred a few I didn't like to see if they improve. I have a jar HH Vintage Syrian that must be 14 or 15 years old that still smells repellent to me...so anything I jar I probably won't ever smoke unless society collapses and I can't get anything else! lol

 

[cosmicfolklore]

If they aren't great on the day I buy them, then I don't buy them any more. All blends should be great fresh. I only have one in my cellar that was not great, and I hoped it would become better, but didn't... and that is MacBaren's Virginia #1. Bitey bitey, then. Bitey bitey, now.

 

[Peter Turbo]

i personally think the whole premise of aging something is pretty silly. tomorrow isnt guaranteed for anyone and the whole idea of put it away today because it will be better tomorrow has always just struck me as odd. im in it for the here and now and if i smoke a blend and it tastes good today then thats a solid blend for me. if a blend needs time to be good then to me its not as good a blend because frankly i and no one else has that kind of time.

that being said the stuff i open goes into a jar and therefore unintentionally ive started a cellar. just out of the simple fact i dont want any of it to dry out and go bad. everyone has their own way of treating the hobby and at the end of the day if u want to put stuff away to improve it then good on you i hope you get to reap those rewards.

 

[MRW]

I am on the complete opposite spectrum from those who posted thus far regarding aging purchased tobacco. I make all my purchases with the intent of cellaring. There are exceptions of course. Granger and Five Brothers are around for the quick, cheap Vit N hit.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

Everything I bought was to cellar. Aging is one of the benefits. I can't think of any blend I prefer fresh.

 

[cigrmaster]

Almost all of my stash consists of flakes, plugs and a rope and all of them are hard to find. I didn't mess around with blends that were not very popular. When I am done smoking my kids will have loads of great blends to sell that is if I don't smoke or sell them all.

Most of my cellar consists of popular flakes and plugs and the one rope which will also be very popular.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

That doesn't make any sense. If you don't like it fresh, then how do you know you'll like it with age on it? Do you just ask people what you'll like?

 

[Jaylotw]

The only stuff I don't cellar is stuff I don't like enough to buy extra.

I don't really cellar anything with the express intent to age it...I cellar stuff I like and age is an added bonus sometimes, if I haven't smoked it all up.

I don't smoke many aros, and the ones I do, I don't really care if they don't age well. I keep them for smoking around company, or in my closed garage so my girl doesn't complain.

There are a bunch of blends that I really like, but not enough to seriously cellar any. I'll smoke a tin, and then maybe buy another when it's gone, if I'm feeling it. A 2oz tin of one of these blends, jarred up, might last me years...so, I guess that's cellaring.

There isn't a single blend, in my experience, that either suffered for aging so badly that I couldn't smoke it anymore, or that I didn't like fresh, but that improved so drastically by aging that I'd buy it specifically to age.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

If someone just relies on what's popular... that doesn't even make sense. So, you just trust what "trended."
The top five most popular films of all times were...

1. Gone With the Wind (1939)
2. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
3. The Sound of Music (1965)
4. E. T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
5. Titanic (1997)

If someone just relied on what trended, you'd have to say that these were your favorites also. I did not like any of these. I mean, Gone With the Wind is ok, but better than Pop Fiction? WTF
I don't have enough estrogen in my system to watch Titanic, and we all know how it ends anyways. The rest are just sucky children's movies.

 

[sablebrush52]

I cellar stuff I like so that I'll have it when I want to smoke it. So anything I I stocked up on is something I enjoyed smoking fresh

The only exception to that that comes to mind is PS-LBF, which I thought tasted like cardboard. So I jarred it and forgot about it. Four years later I find that jar and open it, discovering that it has really blossomed into a great tasting smoke. That's one I buy to age because it's released way too early.

I preferred 2015 fresh, but it's OOP, so I still smoke it aged, though I don't think it's better for the aging.

Honestly, I don't buy anything with the idea of aging it. I stock up against the probability that the blend will become unavailable. Aging is what happens until I get around to smoking it.

Considering what has been happening to a lot of blends in the past 3 to 5 years, I'm glad that I bought stock.

 

[captpat]

Like @sablebrush52 i cellar to future-proof my hobby, the fact that some blends get better with age is a plus. Some blends I did not initially care for are now ones I enjoy whether that‘s doe to aging or the evolution of my taste is anyones guess. The biggest proportion of my cellar is blends I liked fresh.

 

[daytonsean]

I really dig the Veermaster flake so I keep a lot of that around. It’s great fresh and it changes with some years on it in a good way.
I prefer the Latakia blends and I pick them up five to ten at a time. I think they mellow out too much when they get older so I like these ones new and without much change to them. The orientals seem to stand out a lot more in aged blends and it’s not as good to me.
I was always told that to cellar a blend is to put the age on it specifically to see how it changes. Some of the old timers I came up with put back some of these blends because they preferred them like that. Pick up a few tins of your favorites and set them back in a time capsule and ser what happens.

 

[warren]

Too old to cellar. I buy to smoke and basically only a half dozen different blends, mostly decided on many years ago.

 

[MRW]

If someone just relies on what's popular... that doesn't even make sense. So, you just trust what "trended."
The top five most popular films of all times were...

1. Gone With the Wind (1939)
2. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
3. The Sound of Music (1965)
4. E. T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
5. Titanic (1997)

If someone just relied on what trended, you'd have to say that these were your favorites also. I did not like any of these. I mean, Gone With the Wind is ok, but better than Pop Fiction? WTF
I don't have enough estrogen in my system to watch Titanic, and we all know how it ends anyways. The rest are just sucky children's movies.

Nothing makes sense to you Cosmic!

 

[MRW]

Nothing makes sense to you Cosmic!

Mr Negative

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Mr Negative

Me negative? I don’t believe you’ve known me long enough to make that assessment.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

If someone just relies on what's popular... that doesn't even make sense. So, you just trust what "trended."
The top five most popular films of all times were...

1. Gone With the Wind (1939)
2. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
3. The Sound of Music (1965)
4. E. T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
5. Titanic (1997)

If someone just relied on what trended, you'd have to say that these were your favorites also. I did not like any of these. I mean, Gone With the Wind is ok, but better than Pop Fiction? WTF
I don't have enough estrogen in my system to watch Titanic, and we all know how it ends anyways. The rest are just sucky children's movies.

Just in to say there were two things I really liked about Titanic but not enough to watch it again.

Now I've forgotten what my point was in regard to tobacco . . . .