What Labels Are Affected By MacBaren & Sutliff Demise

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Why would STG quit making blends for other companies? If they didn't meet their production metric, why would they have been making them at all. I suppose that STG might discontinue some contracts, but if this activity is profitable why would they cease doing it?
I suppose the answers will come in the next year or two. COmpanies will then have to look for other sources, and there are other sources.
if the point is consolidation, as they stated was the cause of the gutting, why would they make a bunch of different blends under different labels? It doesnt make sense for them to add the extra expense to haave so much variety if streamlining is the name of the game. It is clear with Sutliff which is more cut and dry but with the Mac Baren blended things, and what the letter stated there is a grey area indeed. Logic is not a factor here, as with passion. There is analytics, stats and other math wizardry that i cannot fathom why if things are profitable they are hard lined, even though the market is small, it is fairly strong.
Where i come from is this; I began my journey nearly 5 1/2 years ago, and per my nature i wandered with no clear direction. First aromatic, first blend was Blue Note. Then it we ( can't remember the label, but can say it was a Mr. Brog ( cant figure out how to do the different letters) Viking Billiard. Tongue bite and flavor galore. Onto the catalogue of Peter Stokkebye, Norwegian Blend, Nougat, then War Horse, Hearth and Home, Sutliff Frenchy's Son o Bitches (sp) (is a blend and is Wicked Tasty!) to HH Rustica which is reminiscent to Gawith Black Irish XX savory BBQ.

i missed out on McClelland, and now with new laws not allowing some age groups to purchase tobacco, it seems to me that instead of allowing discernable markets, that there is an attempt to make one globalized set. We In the US have been spoiled for choice, but i have been loyal to a couple of houses, but it seems it stems from one source. STG is the global backbone of the hobby, even though there are other blenders, like Kopp, they get their product from STG.
Rather long winded and i apologize. long and short is that the sheer breathe of variety, even if was from the same "parent" to cut down to so few really limits the journey future (if any) brothers / sisters of the leaf will have...maybe i am thinking too much and that is valid.....time will tell, and we as a community will adept something and overcome... excuse the butchering of the slogan, i am very tired
 
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sablebrush52

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It doesnt make sense for them to add the extra expense to haave so much variety if streamlining is the name of the game.
I suppose the difference would be that if STG gets a contract to turn out 5000 units of "Whatsis A" they make it and get paid for it and don't have to worry about waiting on orders from distributors to come in. The deal is simple, predictable, and clean cut. The other company has to worry about selling the product to distributors and retail.

It's possible that they would prefer to become king of the mole hill and decide to discontinue supplying leaf or producing product to other labels, which cuts down their profits and production.

If I were one of their dependents and wanted to stay in business I'd be looking to hedge my reliance upon them by finding other sources.

Where there's a profitable vacuum to be filled, someone will come along to fill it.
 
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Yes those are toast.
As Well as STG / Mac Baren makes (and probably discontinue) which includes blends/ lines such as
7 seas
Newminister
Holger Danske
Savinelli (except Jupiter, Janus, and the 140th, 145th anniversary which C&D makes)
Amphora
Charatan
Erik Stokkebye 4th Generation
Edward G Robinson
Gurhka
Missouri Meerschaum (some)
Mixture 79
I knew 7 Seas was toast, it was created by Mac Baren to compete with Captain Black and Borkum Riff so I knew STG wouldn't keep it around when they have the real things.
 
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