What Labels Are Affected By MacBaren & Sutliff Demise

[pappymac]

Badbriar asked an interesting question in his thread "Are We Really Losing That Much With The Closures of MacBaren and Sutliff”"
So while having coffee this morning I logged into tobaccoreviews and did a search to see just what the Sutliff Tobacco Company manufactures for other brands/labels/tobacconist. I've tried being as accurate as possible.

Blends Manufactured by Sutliff Tobacco Company according to tobaccoreviews.

Sutliff Tobacco Company:
281 Currently Available (until they aren’t)
65 Discontinued Blends

Private Label Blends
184 Currently Available
27 Discontinued
According to Tobacco Reviews, Sutliff also made blends for:

Admiral’s Choice

Backwoods
Bengal Slices
Benjamin Hartwell
Blender’s Gold
Brigham Enterprises

Century
Chris Morgan
Cobblestone
Cup O’ Joes

Dream Castle Tobacco Company

E. Hoffman Company: Distinguished Gentleman

F&K: Bat with a Hat

Gurkha

Hearth & Home
Holt’s Cigar Company

Iwan Ries

John Cotton

Kramer’s Pipe & Tobacco Shop: Father Dempsey

Missouri Meerschaum

Per G. Jensen

Pipes & Cigars: Angler’s Dream

Seattle Pipe Club
Smoker Friendly
smokin joes cigar
Super Value

The Country Squire
The Smoker: Civil War
Tobacconist Reserve Ltd.

War Horse
Watch City Cigar
Wessex: Gold Slice

 

[sablebrush52]

Badbriar asked an interesting question in his thread "Are We Really Losing That Much With The Closures of MacBaren and Sutliff”"
So while having coffee this morning I logged into tobaccoreviews and did a search to see just what the Sutliff Tobacco Company manufactures for other brands/labels/tobacconist. I've tried being as accurate as possible.

Blends Manufactured by Sutliff Tobacco Company according to tobaccoreviews.

Sutliff Tobacco Company:
281 Currently Available (until they aren’t)
65 Discontinued Blends

Private Label Blends
184 Currently Available
27 Discontinued
According to Tobacco Reviews, Sutliff also made blends for:

Admiral’s Choice

Backwoods
Bengal Slices
Benjamin Hartwell
Blender’s Gold
Brigham Enterprises

Century
Chris Morgan
Cobblestone
Cup O’ Joes

Dream Castle Tobacco Company

E. Hoffman Company: Distinguished Gentleman

F&K: Bat with a Hat

Gurkha

Hearth & Home
Holt’s Cigar Company

Iwan Ries

John Cotton

Kramer’s Pipe & Tobacco Shop: Father Dempsey

Missouri Meerschaum

Per G. Jensen

Pipes & Cigars: Angler’s Dream

Seattle Pipe Club
Smoker Friendly
smokin joes cigar
Super Value

The Country Squire
The Smoker: Civil War
Tobacconist Reserve Ltd.

War Horse
Watch City Cigar
Wessex: Gold Slice

That's it? Wow! That's nothing. I was worried for a moment.

 

[dozicusmaximus]

That's right panic buyers, don't stop until every corner of the internet is scoured and the words "out of stock" are visible. Only then will your job be complete.

 

[Chasing Embers]

That's right panic buyers, don't stop until every corner of the internet is scoured and the words "out of stock" are visible.

It's not us. Most of the viewership on online forums is by buyers that aren't members.

 

[sablebrush52]

That's right panic buyers, don't stop until every corner of the internet is scoured and the words "out of stock" are visible. Only then will your job be complete.

OK gentlemen, we have a LOT more work to do.

 

[dozicusmaximus]

It's not us. Most of the viewership on online forums is by buyers that aren't members.

It's you I know it's you!!! :p

 

[sablebrush52]

It's you I know it's you!!! :p

Honestly, I was at the butcher's buying pork tenderloin. I had nothing to do with it.

 

[Chasing Embers]

It's you I know it's you!!! :p

On a fixed budget since September. No more pipes or tobacco for me. I've got enough to last over 40 years at my current rate of use.

 

[dozicusmaximus]

Honestly, I was at the butcher's buying pork tenderloin. I had nothing to do with it.

That reminds me. I need to grab a few roasts.

On a fixed budget since September. No more pipes or tobacco for me. I've got enough to last over 40 years at my current rate of use.

I'm just horsing around. I'll get a nice cellar going one day. I'm still trying to find what I really like. I'm just pissy because a few of the things I found I liked this summer are gone. There's plenty of other stuff out there to try.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I'm just horsing around.

I know.

 

[0minutes2midnight]

I guess i am a little confused on the subject. I understand the Sutliff side of things, but what about the blends that Mac Baren made for private labels? Saw a list floating around reddit that was far more broad list of blends that were going to be discontinued

 

[Scottmi]

What about Hearth & Home blends that were already made by STG, specific example: Viprati? I'm assuming 'retired' along with the whole H&H line, because, Tobaccopalypse 2025.

 

[0minutes2midnight]

Yes those are toast.
As Well as STG / Mac Baren makes (and probably discontinue) which includes blends/ lines such as
7 seas
Newminister
Holger Danske
Savinelli (except Jupiter, Janus, and the 140th, 145th anniversary which C&D makes)
Amphora
Charatan
Erik Stokkebye 4th Generation
Edward G Robinson
Gurhka
Missouri Meerschaum (some)
Mixture 79

 

[Hutch Piper]

What about Hearth & Home blends that were already made by STG, specific example: Viprati? I'm assuming 'retired' along with the whole H&H line, because, Tobaccopalypse 2025.

Yes. Gone.

 

[AirOne]

And what about other companies sourcing their tobacco from STG? Where does Dan, Kopp, etc get their blending tobacco?

 

[sablebrush52]

I guess i am a little confused on the subject. I understand the Sutliff side of things, but what about the blends that Mac Baren made for private labels? Saw a list floating around reddit that was far more broad list of blends that were going to be discontinued

Why would STG quit making blends for other companies? If they didn't meet their production metric, why would they have been making them at all. I suppose that STG might discontinue some contracts, but if this activity is profitable why would they cease doing it?
I suppose the answers will come in the next year or two. COmpanies will then have to look for other sources, and there are other sources.

 

[pappymac]

I guess i am a little confused on the subject. I understand the Sutliff side of things, but what about the blends that Mac Baren made for private labels? Saw a list floating around reddit that was far more broad list of blends that were going to be discontinued

I didn't have time to dive into the different blends made by MacBaren. I may do that some other time.
Fortunately, for me, most of the tobacco I have been smoking for the past four years are manufactured by Kopp (formerly known as Kohlhase & Kopp) and Dan Tobacco.

I'm happy as long as STG doesn't get the opportunity to buy either of them.

And what about other companies sourcing their tobacco from STG? Where does Dan, Kopp, etc get their blending tobacco?

Do you mean "sourcing their tobacco from Sutliff?"
IF STG is selling tobacco to other companies and making money doing it, I doubt that they would stop.

 

[BingBong]

All of the old Ogdens line which Mac Baren made is in limbo. Is Original (Walnut Flake) going to continue? Gold Block, even? I don't know.

 

[Terry Lennox]

The Amphora pouches were good stuff. People assume a pouch is crap but Mac Baren did a great job with those blends. High quality broken flake with minimal flavoring for the most part. And if you ever wanted to know what second-hand pipe smoke smelled like in the 1980's just try Full Aroma.

 

[coming to_falling too]

The Amphora pouches were good stuff. People assume a pouch is crap but Mac Baren did a great job with those blends. High quality broken flake with minimal flavoring for the most part. And if you ever wanted to know what second-hand pipe smoke smelled like in the 1980's just try Full Aroma.

Amphora Virginia was a favorite of mine when I was just starting out. Sad to see them go.