What is an Antique Pipe
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^^^^^ THESE
+ quite a few of @sablebrush52 's collection of Barlings
Virkia has an enviable collection of antique pipes, but he has been MIA for some months
Having a S&G pipe made in 1900. had always wondered who made them. So, interesting info. As an aside, as I understand it, S&G was noted to be Sherlock Holmes tobacconist in the literature understandably.
Why thank-you. Yes, it is. It is actually a Limerick. Purchased in Limerick, Ireland of all places.
Yesterday at a gun shop, a color case hardened rifle caught my eye.
I want a single shot 45-70, black powder era type, that won’t blow up if I shoot my 45-70 hand loads for my 1895 Marlin,
This one was a heartbreaker. I was almost persuaded, but left it on the rack.
That rifle above was made in 1971 as a modern replica of an 1873 black powder 45-70 rifle. It was as new, and beautiful.
But investigators found evidence at the Battle of the Little Big Horn where trap door Springfields were not reliable, of troopers trying to extract brass from rifles that quit extracting brass. When they were new, they weren’t reliable like a Sharps or Winchester High Wall.
And the trap door action was and remains limited to black powder pressures. I have hundreds of stout hand loads for my modern Marlin 1895. I’d rather not blow me up, or worse yet a grandchild in fifty years.
Before World War One pipes were made in factories, but after that war pipes became more of a mass market commodity, and this Savenelli billiard could have as easily been made in 1925 as today.
I want a single shot 45-70, black powder era type, that won’t blow up if I shoot my 45-70 hand loads for my 1895 Marlin,
This one was a heartbreaker. I was almost persuaded, but left it on the rack.
That rifle above was made in 1971 as a modern replica of an 1873 black powder 45-70 rifle. It was as new, and beautiful.
But investigators found evidence at the Battle of the Little Big Horn where trap door Springfields were not reliable, of troopers trying to extract brass from rifles that quit extracting brass. When they were new, they weren’t reliable like a Sharps or Winchester High Wall.
And the trap door action was and remains limited to black powder pressures. I have hundreds of stout hand loads for my modern Marlin 1895. I’d rather not blow me up, or worse yet a grandchild in fifty years.
Before World War One pipes were made in factories, but after that war pipes became more of a mass market commodity, and this Savenelli billiard could have as easily been made in 1925 as today.
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I didn't know that about S&G and Sherlock Holmes. I did some more research after I bought the pipe and couldn't remember where I had filed it. S&G actually traces it start in the cigar and pipe tobacco business to around 1841. They had 140 by 1900 when they were sold and S&G left the tobacco industry and focused on their tea and catering business - J. Lyons. I've read excerpts from a book written about the S&G dynasty - "Legacy" by Thomas Harding.
I guess everyone is right. Technically an item has to be over a hundred years old, but that is may be too rigid. Vintage is the term for old but not yet antique. Nor does being an antique automatically mean an item is valuable or has quality. There’s lots of junk antiques out there.
Any crappy, poorly maintained pipe on Ebay trying to fetch a higher price than it deserves, in my experience. Age irrelevant.
My personal opinion is that it isn't the age of the pipe so much that makes it an antique as it is the construction and the overall design features as they relate to the times. Pipes made before WW1, especially meerschaums, use materials and some construction techniques not common to today's modern or even vintage pipes such as bone tenons, amber mouth stems, silver fitting around the bowl, and even lip design. This of course isn't always the case, but by practice it often is the case. My Kaywoodie and Dunhill pipes from the 20s share little to no differences with my pipes made in the 40s or afters. I guess what I am saying is that age alone is a poor indicator for defining antique. My 1922 Royal typewriter is an antique. It shares nearly nothing with the computer on which I am now typing, other than the keyboard layout - somewhat - and the fact that I can use both to put print on paper.
