Smoking D&R Ryback, breaking in new MM Hardwood.. These pipes would be more appealing to people if it wasn't hell to break them in. I suspect all that would take is to keep the stain out of the chamber.. but maybe they just dip them in. Once the hard work is done (15 bowls) they smoke like a dream.. cool, dry, and waay under an ounce in weight. I tend to favor these over briar 60 percent of the time. Having a diet Coke, as I take in an episode of Cannon.