Weird Thought?

[Puffaluffaguss]

OK, so I was just reading the new STG thread and I read a post by one of the older members that sent a shiver down my spine. In fact I am downright terrified and bewildered In a way that most might find strange.

We all are going to pass away at some point right, so I am preparing for that day in many ways. If my dad was as cool as me I would be a rich man just from shiny cardboard Pokémon cards lol (Seriously). I myself have a big ass safe for all my collectibles, which includes Pokémon cards, tobacco tins, comic books etc.

For my wife and kids after I'm gone not including life insurance and bank accounts, this safe has a pretty penny worth inside. But it will mean nothing if they don't know what to do with it. So I am going to leave a note inside that lists all that's inside, What it's worth (at the current) and how to find it's worth at that time if need be. Who to sell too or through.

I'm terrified of the fact that, yes, some people's collections are going to go into the trash because they didn't leave anything else behind beside the tobacco and pipes. If all of us on this forum left a plan of action for our collections when we are gone, a lot of new pipers would be grateful, I assume; I know I would be. And our families wouldn't be so overwhelmed by our collections and will be able to make a few bucks from our hobby after we're gone.

I'm doing it not just for myself or my family, but the new guys in the future. Might not be something everyone does but it's easier then seeing rare tins in the landfills.

 

[warren]

If you want to force your heirs into doing specifics with their gifts you'd best put it in writing, in the will. If the gifts are unencumbered they pretty much do as they wish with their inheritances. It might be wise to appoint an executor to oversee you wishes.

 

[Grangerous]

Leave your pipes to the Forum, care of @cosmicfolklore.

He’s our resident Keith Richards and can distribute them fairly to members.

Hate to know that many pipes will end up in dumpsters.

 

[jpmcwjr]

I read that as guidance, not mandate. I would send emails with the guidance to the heirs, not just leave a paper in a safe.

 

[sablebrush52]

I have listed my collection and cellar in my will as assets to be sold. I need to do an inventory on the pipes, since there are some rare and valuable pieces in the collection.

 

[Puffaluffaguss]

Leave your pipes to the Forum, Care of @cosmicfolklore.

He’s our resident Keith Richards and can distribute them fairly to members.

Hate to know that many pipes will end up in dumpsters.

They will, they are, and are going to be. I of course will need an executer, most likely my oldest unless they do a complete 360 in college lol. I just keep having a vision of pre 2000s escudo, three nuns etc in a giant pile in a landfill somewhere. Kinda like something out of the Walkind Dead show lol. And I hate to say but poor Cosmics got me by at least 20 years but he would be an option if he's still kickin

Nobody should expect free stuff unless it's a gift, which I reserve only for Secret Santa. My kids will know what to do with my stuff because I teach them. How many of us share our hobbies with a family member? I do it because I am interested in the hobbies they enjoy, and it makes me happy for them to find joy in my hobbies. If they make money off it isn't really the point. It's more they get it back out into the world and not into a dumpster. If they make money of it good for them. I just feel better knowing I left them with a way and not lost for words at the pounds and pounds of tobacco lol

 

[Chasing Embers]

this safe has a pretty penny worth inside.

If at that time they're worth anything. Remember Beanie Babies? I knew people that emptied their savings to bank on them as investments.

I'm terrified of the fact that, yes, some people's collections are going to go into the trash because they didn't leave anything else behind beside the tobacco and pipes.

I've left instructions for my family to pick out a favorite pipe or two but to discard the rest of the pipes and tobacco as that's all they are. Just frivolous expenditures that in my life I found amusing and any monetary gain from the entirety of my collection is a pittance in comparison to what I'm leaving them.

 

[Puffaluffaguss]

I'm only 32 guys I haven't even thought of a Will yet. We'll I have but at this point in my career I don't have nearly half of what I'll have in 10 years 20 years from now. I'll do a draft and update it until I feel my assets are sufficient. But until then it's a paper with instructions just in case I get hit by a car tomorrow.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I haven't even thought of a Will yet.

Get it done as soon as possible. They can be amended if need be over time but you never know what can happen. It's a safeguard for your family. Unnotarized documentation doesn't hold up well in legal proceedings.

 

[Grangerous]

Get it done as soon as possible. They can be amended if need be over time but you never know what can happen. It's a safeguard for your family. Unnotarized documentation doesn't hold up well in legal proceedings.

This

 

[Puffaluffaguss]

Tht

If at that time they're worth anything. Remember Beanie Babies? I knew people that emptied their savings to bank on them as investments.



I've left instructions for my family to pick out a favorite pipe or two but to discard the rest of the pipes and tobacco as that's all they are. Just frivolous expenditures that in my life I found amusing and any monetary gain from the entirety of my collection is a pittance in comparison to what I'm leaving them.

The entire point of the thread is to

1. Find out if we even care for others in the hobby, or for the future of the hobby itself. Or let new smokers in 20 years be damned for being born in a different time.

2. See if anybody else has a plan for the future of our cellers after we are gone. Weather our kids care or not isn't the point, I'm sure they will still have to pay bills. I would rather them sell my collection then use their inheritance for a car or house or vacation even.

3. The Pokémon card reference. We don't know 100 years from now pipe smoking might be dead or still alive and maybe even thriving, we don't know for sure. My dad thought Pokémon was a fad, a child's game soon to be forgotten. Yet now the same cards I bought for $3 are now worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. You never know Embers 1 of those pipes in your box might be worth more then your entire life's savings. Just saying if my dad kept all my cards I wouldn't need to work a day in my life. Which is pretty insane if you think about. Which is what I'm trying to do for my kids.

What we work for is the same things happy wife happy life, good, strong, well mannered and articulate kids and to grow old and not struggle. My kids won't go through the same things I did because I'm thinking about their future. I guess for some people money lasts forever, I'm not 1 of those guys, so if my kids can get something weather it be money or memorys from me weather it be from cars, pipes & tobacco, shiny cardboard, Jordan shoes or anything I collect that all that matters to me.

It's good to know others perspectives weather they align with mine or not.

 

[Puffaluffaguss]

I'm also in the mind set my kids won't fight over anything. They are learning from our mistakes. My grandpa had 2 houses off Canyon road here in Santa Fe. Built with his own hands out of Adobe he made himself. He passed at a young age but had 8 boys so grandma never had to worry. But that left me with 7 uncles who most had kids and when it was time to divide the estate, well you all know. My kids got to see first hand family that at 1 point all gathered for Thanksgiving now only immediate family comes. Arguments over such things occurr because there was no plan, no conversations on how to make thing equal. I'm hoping when I die my kids don't fight over anything because I gave the instructions they need for a happy, fair outcome.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I just want my pipes and tobaccos placed with me on my funeral pyre. If anyone wants anything, they’ll have to fish it out of the embers after the fire has gotten going good. As it is written, so may it be.

 

[Puffaluffaguss]

I just want my pipes and tobaccos placed with me on my funeral pyre. If anyone wants anything, they’ll have to fish it out of the embers after the fire has gotten going good. As it is written, so may it be.

If your house happens to catch fire cosmic I don't want to know about how you tried to save you stash.

News article.
Man jumps into burning home to inhale the smoke of his rare tobacco.

 

[Servant King]

I just want my pipes and tobaccos placed with me on my funeral pyre. If anyone wants anything, they’ll have to fish it out of the embers after the fire has gotten going good.

I can picture a lot of forum members in attendance, all of them with 3rd degree burns.

 

[HeavyLeadBelly]

If you’re concerned, or anyone reading this thread, about your estate after passing, it’s worth your time and money to sit down with an estate planning attorney and get your will and other affairs in order.

 

[Pipke]

In the model rocketry hobby, there are so many people in their 60s and 70s that are aging out of the hobby that there is a glut of "valuable" hobby stuff out there. This year alone I handled three men's model rocketry inventories. Last year was four. We're talking about a lot of stuff and the motivation for all of these men was to declutter their lives and not saddle their families with a pile of stuff that they considered to be "valuable."

What is "valuable" anyways? Some stuff is. A lot of stuff is not.

It used to be that a lot of Elvis Presley ephemera and memorabilia held value and were considered to be collectible. But one day, the bottom fell out of the Elvis Presley market. Why? Because the generation of people that collected Elvis stuff started dying off. There were fewer potential buyers! Fewer still has the years rolled on. The market was saturated with common "collectible" items that no one wanted to collect anymore. There still is a collector's market, but some stuff you just can't give away anymore.

Same with Beanie Babies. No one cares anymore. That went out 25 years ago.

Day of reckoning is coming for the model rocketry hobby as the Baby Boomers and even Gen-Xers who were into this sort of thing age out. This sort of attrition is occurring across all sectors, including pipes and pipe smoking.

Take stock in what "valuable" stuff you have. Is it valuable to just you and a small niche market? Is it currently valued by your family? If it isn't valued by your family today, will your death make them value your stuff more? Will the valuable stuff still be valuable after 250,000 guys just like you die and leave all their valuable stuff for their families to deal with?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Find out if we even care for others in the hobby

I do care about people just not the selfish indulgence of tobacco use. It's something I wish not to pass on.

You never know Embers 1 of those pipes in your box might be worth more then your entire life's savings.

To me, other than personal sentimental value, they are just tobacco and nicotine delivery devices. The value of my entire collection doesn't even come near a month of interest gain in my savings.

Just make sure you have legal documentation drawn up soon or lawyers could find a way to deprive your family of anything.

new smokers in 20 years

Tobacco has had a good run, thousands of years in fact. We're seeing it's final years in our lifetime and 50 years from now, someone will either wonder what those odd little wood and plastic straws were used for or find other uses for them only knowing the brand name by what is stamped on them.

 

[bullet08]

As mentioned, it's called "will". Make it legal and file away with your lawyer or whatever. Let them fight over it with a handwritten note can be fun too.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I just want my pipes and tobaccos placed with me on my funeral pyre.

That's actually not a bad idea, a memorial bonfire. I've also got firepit skulls that can be placed around it. I may include that in my will.