Vucanite vs Acrylic

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trucha

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 26, 2013
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What are the pros and cons of these two stem materials. Also, are the plastic ones made with Bpa? I just listened to a news report about how naty that stuff is and was wondering if it's in my pipe stems.

 

cajunguy

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 22, 2012
756
1
Metairie, LA
I'm not sure about the BPA, but the primary difference is vulcanite oxidizes and acrylic doesn't. I find acrylic is easy to scratch, but also easier to polish. You can remove scratches from acrylic, but it's difficult, as there's a very fine line between correcting a problem and making it worse. I find vulcanite to be more comfortable, but opinions on that surely differ.

 

sasquatch

Lifer
Jul 16, 2012
1,708
2,992
Acrylic has a real hard "click" on the teeth - not giving at all like the vulcanite. But... after 20 years, you have a stem that has required no maintenance and might be showing faint tooth marks, where a vulcanite stem would probably be ready for replacement.
BPA free according to these guys:
http://www.clearlyacrylic.com/aboutplastics.html
There is sulfur in vulcanite stems, which can cause irritation of mucous membranes.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,601
I think Vulcanite is easier on the teeth and jaw, if only slightly, and some purists prefer it as

a more traditional material. If people have a strong preference, it seems to be for Vulcanite.

Acrylic/plastic doesn't tend to gray or green-out (fade and stain) readily if it is high

quality. Acrylic can be done in a variety of colors and can lend a really distinguished look

to a pipe if it is done with taste. Some of the more wildly colored and far-out pipes use

really unusual colors, and this pleases some and turns off others. I have both kinds of

stems and find them both functional and fine. For a pipe that I carry in my mouth while

I work on something, I guess I'd go with Vulcanite (and a lighter pipe). What you want to

avoid is lower grade plastic that chews through rapidly, but you will only find this on

really inexpensive pipes, and souvenir pipes not made for regular smoking. BPA is a

plasticizer used to make plastic flexible and doesn't seem likely in pipe stems where

rigidity is wanted.

 

gray4lines

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 6, 2012
679
2
KY
Acrylic feels 'cheap' to me. I prefer lucite or vulcanite.
Isn't lucite another name for acrylic? I may very well be wrong.
I have been buying Italian, so all but one of my pipes are acrylic-stemmed. I do feel the difference between its hardness and the rubber stem, but for my particular bite, the weight of the pipe and shape of the button are way more important for the feel and comfort (as opposed to the material).
I like the almost maintenace-free nature of plastic, and the colors can be pretty cool. But I would like a real cumberland stem!

 

shaintiques

Lifer
Jul 13, 2011
3,616
235
Georgia
Yeah acrylic and lucite are the same. I prefer lucite for the soul reason that it doesn't oxidize. After restoring tons of pipes, I lean towards acrylic, i don't really chew my stems up so the hardness isn't a factor for me.

 

gmwolford

Lifer
Jul 26, 2012
1,355
5
WV, USA
Personally, it depends on the pipe and the stem for me. Some pipes I see with one type of stem and feel "eh", but then take a look at the same thing with a different stem and it's more of an "oohh". Yes, it has to be comfortable but the look of the total package makes or breaks the initial decision for me; the comfort factor comes into play later, after I've smoked it a while and know if it "fits" me or not.

 

morton

Part of the Furniture Now
May 3, 2012
648
2
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
I tend to "chew" my cobs more than other pipes as well but do prefer vulcanite over acrylic for mouthfeel. I had to buy a buffer to clean up my vulcanite stems because doing it by hand (a la matchstickman) took too long. At least that's how I rationalized it so please don't disabuse me of the fantasy I'm under. Besides, I like to play with things that spin.

 

brdavidson

Lifer
Dec 30, 2012
2,017
6
All of my pipes have acrylic stems so I can't talk to the difference. I did notice though that my teeth were getting a little sore and so I tried a softy bit, at first hated the thing, but I've gotten used to is so now I have them on a few of my straight pipes. I wonder if I ever got a vulcanite stem if I could forgoe the softy?

 

dlattim

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 27, 2012
233
2
I guess I'm a bit different. I actually prefer the mouth feel of the acrylic stems. They are smoother and I like that. The vulcanite stems have a slight roughness to them and unless you clean and polish after every other smoke, to me, they just feel dirtier. I don't really choose my pipes over this issue though. I'll buy either.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,601
One other thought after my above post: Wider bits at the end of the stem, the part between your

teeth, distributes the weight better for either Vulcanite or acrylic stems. I have some acrylic stems

that are wider and are more comfortable than some of the more narrow Vulcanites. With the pressure

of your teeth spread across the width of a wider bit, you don't clench as hard and holding a pipe in

your mouth is more comfortable. A light pipe with a wide bit (of either kind) is easy on my teeth.

Different people have different jaws and teeth, so this will work for some and not others, but it works

for me.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,601
On one of my MM cobs, with the stem getting chewed up, I bought a softy, the only

one I've tried, and it works fine, gave the pipe a whole new life. Didn't have to go for

a new stem, stock or improved Vulcanite, and didn't have to discard the pipe. Especially

with cobs, scorch and wear is part of the charm for me. Until the bowl actually cracks

down the side along the seams, like a crack in a brick wall, I prefer the well worn pipe

to a new one any day. Wear on pipes in my mind is good. Not abuse, but careful wear.

 
Dec 24, 2012
7,195
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I use the soft on all my pipes. I actually like the feel of it, and I'm a clencher so it protects the pipe. Because I use softies, I really don't notice the difference between vulcanite or lucite.

 

jbbaldwin

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 1, 2012
557
42
I dislike the feel of acrylic stems and think they're too wide and thick at the button. The one pipe I still have with an acrylic stem is never smoked.
All plastics turn me off - probably because every time I'm in a theater or a concert hall somebody's always rustling and rattling some plastic candy- or cough drop wrappers. At meetings, people are forever digging through plastic pretzel bags. Plastic pens and mechanical pencils feel cheap and fake to me, too. Plastic utensils, even on a picnic or at a barbecue, give me heartburn.
(Yes, I'm typing this on a plastic laptop computer. I don't care for it, either!) :)

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,249
57,306
66
Sarasota Florida
With the high quality German vulcanite, maintenance is really not much of an issue at all. The older British stems that are heavy in sulfur oxidize much easier. I have mostly vulcanite stems and not once has the German stuff oxidized on me. I really prefer the feel of rubber and will only buy acrylic if it is a Castello. I am not a fan of the Ashtonite stem, it feels just as hard as my acrylic ones. It is the reason I only have one Ashton pipe, plus the button design is not comfortable to me.

 

dutch65

Might Stick Around
Feb 11, 2012
93
3
I always use rubber softee bits. The only problems I have with the button end of my stems, are when they are too wide, or too narrow to hold my softee bits in place. In which case, I will have an acrylic stem replacement made to solve that problem.

 

allan

Lifer
Dec 5, 2012
2,429
7
Bronx, NY
I just can't stand the acrylic. Of course, I didn't know at the time that many Italian made pipes come with acrylic. Since I'm a clencher, to me it's like biting on glass, although I was told that the newer acrylic is 'softer'. (Can't imagine what the harder acrylic must have been like)
If I can spend time away from this forum, my Castello is tolerable if I hold it and not leave it in my mouth.

 
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