Upcoming limited edition drops

[Waning Embers]

Sunbear was 20,000 tins
Christmas cheer was 20,000 going by the advertising photos.

Red flake w perique was either a single run of 20,000 tins or two runs of 20,000 each.

Royal comfort I believe launched with at least 20,000 tins. And unknown 1 pound bags that never sold out at smoking pipes

Not originally. Most of those were 2-3000 tins. C&D has risen production count over the years to make up for demand. Many of the early releases were only available for at most an hour. Three hundred people could've wiped those numbers out in minutes.

 

[Mez]

I'm looking forward to trying L.J. Perreti "Thanksgiving Day" this year. Only Aromatic I'm a fan of is S.G Cherry Black Cavendish but my hopes are the fruit juice hits the spot.

 

[AJL67]

No need to measure mine, it's limited edition.

No Just antique.

 

[Sig]

Who says the definition of limited edition is necessarily by quantity?

If it's not regularly available and is only made in a set amount when it is made, it's inherently limited by definition, especially considering that some that regularly come back (like Sun Bear) are very often different than when it last was available.

I can find no definition of limited anywhere that mentions quantity...
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I swear, you people argue over the dumbest stuff, for and with the dumbest reasoning. Tired of all this one-upsmanship, dick-measuring bs, pedantic squabbling and "gotcha" nonsense like a bunch of children trying to prove who is the more genuine/manly/legit whatever.

Yes, quantity can be a way in which something is limited, but it's not a necessary condition nor the only way for something to be limited.

Ummm, you actually posted the most argumentative thing here.
Just saying.

 

[Sobrbiker]

No need to measure mine, it's limited edition.

But the “10% off” advertising works in some circles

As a newer pipist, I’m more concerned about gaining depth on what I know I like already, rather than spending that same limited resource of cash I have to jump in on something I may not like.
Even in my limited experience I’ve already wasted money on stuff that will languish in jars forever that could have provided me pounds of what I’ll be missing years from now.

I wonder how many people convince themselves they love a product due to the amount of emotional and financial investment they put into acquiring it.
This is a phenomenon I’ve watched in every hobby I’ve been involved in, and the rise of the internet has only magnified it.

 

[theTomTom]

But the “10% off” advertising works in some circles

As a newer pipist, I’m more concerned about gaining depth on what I know I like already, rather than spending that same limited resource of cash I have to jump in on something I may not like.
Even in my limited experience I’ve already wasted money on stuff that will languish in jars forever that could have provided me pounds of what I’ll be missing years from now.

I wonder how many people convince themselves they love a product due to the amount of emotional and financial investment they put into acquiring it.
This is a phenomenon I’ve watched in every hobby I’ve been involved in, and the rise of the internet has only magnified it.

It's sort of like the esoteric tobaccos have suddenly become soo popular on forums and auction sites.

Badge of courage,of belonging to a limited mixed edition of 20,000 tin owners.

Spend on what you like. Splurge once in a while on something new but similar.

 

[sablebrush52]

Both good points. Its definitely limited by definition and in practice... but its also an interesting phenomenon happening more and more in our world where limited edition anything gets bought up in large or even majority quantities by scalpers.

So its interesting to ponder how much certain "regular production" blends are vs limiteds in sheer quantity... as well as how much of the limited would actually sell if it were just another blend... maybe it would be the same or less per year than the fact that knowing you only have a few hours/days to make the cut.

Personally when im buying a limited edition I always ere on the side of overbuying it. If it ends up a sunbear or CRF I want that dang dozen cans.. it may need to get me through a few years. And if I'm not as fond of it... well, we see it here all the time.. even if somebody isnt "profiting" off of a limited edition in a monetary sense.. they're always good stock to trade in order to acquire tobaccos you may have otherwise been priced out of and spread the supply around to the people who wouldve normally bought a couple but missed out on buying half a dozen.

Limited and small are two different things. 40,000 units of a tobacco blend isn't small, though it may be limited to that one production run.

5,000 units would seem small, until you find out that KBV has done releases as small as 30+ lbs of some very special leaf. And then, there are some very small groups, like one that I belong to, who produce one very special small and limited release for its members each year, generally using component tobaccos pulled from their cellars.

 

[NookersTheCat]

Limited and small are two different things. 40,000 units of a tobacco blend isn't small, though it may be limited to that one production run.

5,000 units would seem small, until you find out that KBV has done releases as small as 30+ lbs of some very special leaf. And then, there are some very small groups, like one that I belong to, who produce one very special small and limited release for its members each year, generally using component tobaccos pulled from their cellars.

That's literally what I mean/essentially what I said. I'm not taking a side in either part of the argument just saying that they're both interesting ways of looking at the idea of what ACTUALLY makes something limited edition... Again I stated that outright.
My only main point if any is that these days I think alot of "Limited Edition" is just a marketing way to exploit our psychology into creating false urgency to buy more than what we normally would need or even want.

As was mentioned here already.. Sun bear used to be like 3000 tins now it's 20,000. The whole "point" or reason of limited edition runs was essentially (as I understood it) "Oh we have such a tiny amount of this higher quality leaf, we want to make something truly high end and special with it". If they can just multiply that supply by 10x in what, 2 or 3 years is it still the same story? Idk... ask yourself that one.

I just think it's an interesting topic to ponder and discuss in general. And actually a topic extremely pertinent to modern trends beyond pipes. Far more fertile ground than "do you smoke all the way to the bottom with a fine white ash?" at least...

 

[filmguerilla]

Limited and small are two different things. 40,000 units of a tobacco blend isn't small, though it may be limited to that one production run.

5,000 units would seem small, until you find out that KBV has done releases as small as 30+ lbs of some very special leaf. And then, there are some very small groups, like one that I belong to, who produce one very special small and limited release for its members each year, generally using component tobaccos pulled from their cellars.

Ironically, the Carolina Red/Perique release says "small batch" right on the tin despite them producing 20K of them. I'd wager it's the biggest batch of anything they made this year.

 

[sablebrush52]

My only main point if any is that these days I think alot of "Limited Edition" is just a marketing way to exploit our psychology into creating false urgency to buy more than what we normally would need or even want.

Oh, for sure. FOMO is a great motivator.

 

[Questionable Source]

I wonder how many people convince themselves they love a product due to the amount of emotional and financial investment they put into acquiring it.

Sunk cost fallacy.

 

[Sea Lord]

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[Sea Lord]

I wonder how many people convince themselves they love a product due to the amount of emotional and financial investment they put into acquiring it.
This is a phenomenon I’ve watched in every hobby I’ve been involved in, and the rise of the internet has only magnified it.

Ah. What's in; what's trendy, as a result of advertisement, influence, etc.
You're on to something, here.

 

[Sobrbiker]

Ah. What's in; what's trendy, as a result of advertisement, influence, etc.
You're on to something, here.

That part I wrote has nothing to do with adverts/external influences, may want to re-read it.

 

[B.Lew]

Is this an acceptable limited quantity?

 

[Briarcutter]

Many people seem to want things just because they are hard to obtain

 

[tmc]

Many people seem to want things just because they are hard to obtain

Which likely leads to the mindset that it’s too rare or valuable to smoke.

 

[sablebrush52]

Many people seem to want things just because they are hard to obtain

It starts early, chasing cheerleaders, and ends up with a $120,000,000 apartment in billionaire’s row.

 

[Briarcutter]

Which likely leads to the mindset that it’s too rare or valuable to smoke.

Exactly, now I'm in that boat. Can't justify cracking an tin of $100+ tobacco any longer.

 

[sablebrush52]

Exactly, now I'm in that boat. Can't justify cracking a tin of $100+ tobacco any longer.

For me it’s an $8 tin, and if it’s something I want to smoke, it gets smoked.
Same with a $500 bag of Stonehaven. It’s a $32 bag of cheap bulk that smokes well.
None of those bid up, high priced blends mean anything to me.
And if I decide that I don’t want to smoke them I’ll sell them and if someone wants to spend a stupid amount of money on them that’s their choice.