Universal Imports - No Condor For You!

[weezell]

I have to agree with Harris. Out the guys who mistreated you.

Simon, I consider you a friend and would like to know who "Disrespected you" in such a manor! You have done nothing but extended the kindness to acquire these things for us,and for someone not to pay you is a piece of shit in my book...

 

[woodsroad]

Simon is far too much the gentleman to publicly ridicule even the most shameless deadbeat who has taken advantage of his overwhelming generosity. He did, however, pass the chore off on to me, mumbling something about kneecaps and boating accidents and donating bodies to science. But I'm pretty busy with work right now, so this gives the offending party a few days to make good on their debt.
In the mean time, I have signed the culprit up with the catalog and gift division of the North American Man/Boy Love Association. That should go over well with his neighbors once the postman gets to chatting with them.

 

[thefalcon]

It is a sad day when someone would make a special request for Tobaccos that are not even offered in the States and then after receiving their order fail to pay for it in a timely manor. Simon, is a true gentleman and has put tremendous amounts of time and effort into getting this special tobacco for fellow Pipers. He has ordered the goods and paid for both the product and the shipping expense out of his own pocket up front. How many people do you know who would even be willing to try and help someone out this day and time much less a dozen or more. I am going to smoke some Condor (thanks to Simon)and try to get my Blood pressure under control.
Eric S.

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

Sad as it may be, I think this is simply a case of the inevitable coming to pass.
Moving to more standard practices for trade over the internet may fix everything, but I wouldn't blame Condor for wanting to stop altogether. Time is precious.

 

[gloucesterman]

Simon, I hope these posts offer some consolation for the indignity suffered and offer some semblance of consolation. We can let evil win even when it costs us as individuals. I can only hope you can somehow see beyond it, understanding there are far more good people than bad. You may no longer be willing to put yourself in this position but that decision others understand. I suspect that revenge might not be in your nature but rejoice in that esteem is a reward for your effort. What the few don't appreciate, the many do.

 

[jimbo69]

I'm not usually one to join the pitchfork brigade, but out them.
Still wonder why that company won't sell it to a receptive audience though. :crazy:

 

[warren]

Simon: You have more patience than I. I hope your glass of "milk of human kindness" gets refilled quickly. My got tipped over years ago and now I always expect the worst out of everyone. Now I'm sometimes pleasantly surprised and never, ever disappointed in people.

 

[huntertrw]

"Still wonder why that company won't sell it to a receptive audience though."
The answer is quite simple: Rational fear of being sued out of existance by certain rabid states' Attorneys General and other anti-tobacco Nazis.

 

[woodsroad]

Hunter, the answer is probably a bit more complex than that. I know that fear of being sued isn't the problem. I believe that it is a marketing decision.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Pointing them out would be gentlemanly for the rest of us so we could avoid any future potential transactions.

 

[freakiefrog]

I would happily pay up front and in full for a couple of packs of Condor Plug. Other wise it's going to be two years before I get to Ireland to get some.

 

[huntertrw]

"I know that fear of being sued isn't the problem."
And you know this how?

 

[warren]

Companies purchase insurance to protect against law suits. I'm guessing the small market for the product does not make it an attractive in an economic sense. Insufficient profits equals a lack of interest. How many thousands of sales would it take to cover the costs of setting up for export?
Perhaps the company is simply not willing to take the risk of introducing their product into an unknown market.

 

[woodsroad]

The Condor brand, AFAIK, is still owned by JTI, but produced by Orlick/STG. Neither company is a stranger to the US market, with products, subsidiaries and employees located here. That tells me that they are not averse to selling tobacco products into the US market.

 

[blueeyedogre]

Sorry you got burned Condor. It only takes a few asshats to ruin a good thing. Puff on partner! Cheers.

 

[gloucesterman]

I read somewhere that the rights to certain brands in the US aren't always owned by the maker. They were sold or given to domestic companies in past relationships. Condor might be one of those cases.

 

[warren]

woods: That seems to only leave "demand" as a consideration.

 

[woodsroad]

True, Warren.
Well, almost true. The demand could be there, but not perceived as viable by the manufacturer.

 

[cigrmaster]

Simon, I understand your reluctance in outting the scum that has wronged you, but please think twice about it. There was a guy named Kyle Black who robbed quite a few people and much of it could have been avoided if people spoke out about him. If you want, just pm me the names and I will gladly out these miscreants and hopefully protect a bunch of people. I loath people who take advantage of the good nature of class acts.

 

[weezell]

I loath people who take advantage of the good nature of class acts.

And a class act Simon is...