UK Aims to Eliminate Smoking by 2030
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This "one size fits all" approach to legislation is certainly causing a lot of issue for us pipe smokers. Do I think that the amount of nicotine that is consumed in smoking a pack of cigarettes every day is harmful? Yeah. There's certainly science behind that. In my case, I don't smoke pipes as a nicotine delivery system. That is simply a secondary result. Forcing us into small corners to bend at the will of a piece of legislation that doesn't speak for us? Nonsense.
I disagree with the sentiment that pipe smokers are a dying breed. Imo, I feel like there is a resurgence of young (ish) people, aka late 20s and beyond, who are turning towards the Pipe. I've seen a good number of younger guys at my B&M as well as personal friends who I've gotten to pick up the pipe, at least occasionally, in lieu of cigarettes. (I'm in my mid 30s as well as a large portion of my friends). While I do think that people who enjoy a pipe will continue to be a small number in comparison to the larger population as a whole, I feel like that's been the trend since atleast the 60s, and blends have come and gone, But there will always be men (and possibly women) who the pipe will call. As long as there is good tobacco (which despite the ever looming tobacapoloyse I am generally optimistic about) there will be people who will smoke said tobacco. I dont know if this will hold true in 60-90 years from now (when most if not all of us will be dead and gone) but in my lifetime, I dont see it going away or dying
People will always require a pleasant distraction from the everyday trials, tribulations and boredom of life. The pipe/tobacco provides this reprieve.
When there is nothing to distract the masses from the daily grind and pain of life, that’s when the natives get restless and start giving the big F U to their so called “leaders”.
Hopefully there are some in the younger generation willing to stand up for themselves and the rest of humanity.
When there is nothing to distract the masses from the daily grind and pain of life, that’s when the natives get restless and start giving the big F U to their so called “leaders”.
Hopefully there are some in the younger generation willing to stand up for themselves and the rest of humanity.
You may choose to deny the evidence but, the nicotine is being properly delivered into your system. And, you ignored the big health hazard ... the carcinogens from incinerating the tobacco. Any displacing of oxygen in your blood is not doing you any good.
You'll enjoy your pipe much more when you accept it for what it is ... an enjoyable diversion which may harm your health but, you accept the risks. And, the nicotine is what makes your pipe enjoyable. If it wasn't there, the body wouldn't get any satisfaction from the experience. Just accept and enjoy the pipe and tobacco, the accompanying nicotine and carcinogens included, and enjoy your pipe. Embrace the known risks as most of us do. It's what makes us rebels and social pariahs.
Not that I wish to age any faster, but I'm kind of looking forward to my future grandchildren's reaction to my habits and activities... "My grandpa smokes TOBACCO, and drinks whiskey all the time! He also likes to eat animals THAT HE SHOOTS with a GUN!"
However, being that I live in a rural area of the Midwest where drinking, hunting, and to some extent smoking are all alive and well, it might not all look so weird after all.
However, being that I live in a rural area of the Midwest where drinking, hunting, and to some extent smoking are all alive and well, it might not all look so weird after all.
"Find what you love and let it kill you."
But let's not pretend like smoking tobacco, pipes or otherwise, is not killing us.
Of course, we're a dying breed!! :lol: I don't think OP meant it as a pun but that shit made me shoot coffee out my nose and into my pipe (I'll be invoicing you shortly). Our hobby literally accelerates our death, that's a scientific fact. The point @warren made nails it: don't delude yourself to believe otherwise, the pipe experience is about the nicotine. The "relax" is not the merriment of sucking on something, otherwise Castello would be making $1000 lollipops.
But let's not pretend like smoking tobacco, pipes or otherwise, is not killing us.
Of course, we're a dying breed!! :lol: I don't think OP meant it as a pun but that shit made me shoot coffee out my nose and into my pipe (I'll be invoicing you shortly). Our hobby literally accelerates our death, that's a scientific fact. The point @warren made nails it: don't delude yourself to believe otherwise, the pipe experience is about the nicotine. The "relax" is not the merriment of sucking on something, otherwise Castello would be making $1000 lollipops.
This presupposes that the UK will still exist in 2030. With the Brexit mess I'd not be surprised if Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales decide that being part of the EU is preferable to being part of the UK. Might be just England left by itself when all is said and done.
Anyhow, I agree what some fellas on the thread write about smoking a pipe being about nicotine. I know smoking a pipe isn't good for my health. I know that I also drink more than I should. These are things I enjoy in spite of the fact that they may kill me. I also know that I will eventually be dead no matter what I do.
The quote that the Trickster uses above may or may not be from Bukowski. It doesn't matter.
Unlikely. The tobacco pipe and leaf market may indeed be diminished if the variety and introduction of new blends is strangled. But eliminated? I doubt it. Not massive numbers, but spinning wheels and muskets are still in use. Some Forums members have cellars that will last long after 2030, if the members do.
Professor Brad Rodu of University of Louisville has published his own analysis of FDA statistics showing that there is only a minor health risk associated with moderate pipe and cigar smoking. He holds an endowed chair on tobacco harm reduction at the university. I mentioned it here on another thread a week or so ago.
While I concede that smoking is any form is unhealthy, there needs to be honesty in the discussion about what the risks really are. The anti-tobacco crusade has risen to the level of an irrational, emotion-based moral panic, and I don't think pipe-smokers on the whole are doing ourselves or the general public any favors in agreeing with the overbroad assertions such as "smoking will kill" us and the like.
Well we are way ahead here (New Zealand), Smoke Free 2025 is the goal. Though there is a referendum next year to decide if marijuana will be made legal. I figure I've got til then to get my cellar stocked, if im lucky. Currently tobacco tax goes up 10% on the first of January each year until then.
And that is germane ... why?
Looks as though you will have a lot more disposable moneys in 2025. That will be a good thing. So, there is an upside.
As long as there is mail order, and people willing to ship to others (doesn’t matter the country), people will get what they want. Now pulling an Australia and banning personal imports is another matter.
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