Ugly tin warnings....

[realypk]

So part of the thing i really like about pipe smoking is all the cool tin designs and variations. Some i come across have the ugly smoking kills stuff taking up half the packing while the majority of the tins I get are unmolested by the white area, many/most just have their beautiful design.

Why do some have the ugly half tin warning on some tins but not others? Are companies voluntarily defacing their tins? Why are the new ones I'm getting mostly not have it anymore?

 

[paulfg]

In Europe it is a requirement to have the ugly photos,not sure about US though.
Maybe depended on the tins origin
where are you?

 

[TheIronMonkey]

Unfotunately, in the US, they're an FDA requirement and must meet certain specifications:

• Be located in a conspicuous and prominent place on the two "principal display panels" of the package;
• Comprise at least 30 percent of each of the principal display panels;
• Be printed in at least 12-point font size and must occupy the greatest possible proportion of the warning label area set aside for the required text;
• Be printed in conspicuous and legible Helvetica bold or Arial bold type or other similar sans serif fonts and in black text on a white background or white text on a black background in a manner that contrasts by typography, layout, or color, with all other printed material on the package;
• Be capitalized and punctuated as indicated in 21 CFR § 1143.3(a)(1); and
• Be centered in the warning area in which the text is required to be printed and positioned such that the text of the required warning statement and the other information on the principal display panels have the same orientation.

 

[realypk]

So why did the new tins i just recently got for the usa market not have the uglyness? They are 2021 tins...

Live in usa virginia. The tins are coming from online orders... many many different kinds. Some are packed in europe for usa market, some in usa for us market...

 

[SBC]

I think that you're just talking about text -- the warning script -- and I agree that it's unsightly, and that it's no more the government's prerogative to require manufacturers to say, "WARNING: Nicotine is an addictive chemical" than it is their prerogative to require candy or soda manufacturers to say, "WARNING: Sugar is an addictive chemical. It is known to all 50 states to make you FAT."

But, have you seen the obscene, graphic, gratuitous, necrophilic images which some European countries require?

They search for images from among the narrow slice of the smoking population which smokes 57 packs of cheap cigarettes before lunch, then filter for the few who wound up with a medical problem, then pay their surgeons to provide them the gnarliest photos they can from the bloodiest part of their procedures. Then they lick and stick it on fine pipe tobacco as though a bowl a day is going to land you there by this time next year.

I don't see them putting pics of Gilbert Grape's mom on packages of Twinkies...

 

[realypk]

Yea ive seen the horrid images, way worse agreed. So did i luck out not getting any of these warnings in my recent shipment or did they perhaps eliminate the requirement?

 

[tzinc]

I cut the warning off my Squadron Leader tin.

 

[fireground_piper]

Unfotunately, in the US, they're an FDA requirement and must meet certain specifications:

• Be located in a conspicuous and prominent place on the two "principal display panels" of the package;
• Comprise at least 30 percent of each of the principal display panels;
• Be printed in at least 12-point font size and must occupy the greatest possible proportion of the warning label area set aside for the required text;
• Be printed in conspicuous and legible Helvetica bold or Arial bold type or other similar sans serif fonts and in black text on a white background or white text on a black background in a manner that contrasts by typography, layout, or color, with all other printed material on the package;
• Be capitalized and punctuated as indicated in 21 CFR § 1143.3(a)(1); and
• Be centered in the warning area in which the text is required to be printed and positioned such that the text of the required warning statement and the other information on the principal display panels have the same orientation.

District court of Columbia shot this requirement down last year. It’s only voluntary for cigars and pipe tobacco.

 

[Chasing Embers]

?‍Never really paid attention. Tin labels never really caught my attention even before the warnings.

 

[realypk]

District court of Columbia shot this requirement down last year. It’s only voluntary for cigars and pipe tobacco.

Awesome information explains a lot.

The tin art is something i really appreciate.

 

[warren]

Some of the European warnings are great. Every time I'm in Europe I collect them and bring them back. Very graphic and interesting I think. I'm buying the product but, the graphic warnings are a nice bonus and great conversation starters.

I've seen obscene. These are purely medical images as opposed to the damage humans inflect on each other in combat or criminal assaults. Now that's obscene in the truest definition of the word. The photos on the various tobacco products are merely interesting compared to what I've witnessed at homicide scenes, collisions, and such.

Although I remember attending an autopsy, the ME was a serious anti-tobacco type. He spent a while showing me the interior of the decedent's lungs. Very informative but, I had/have an affinity for nicotine so . . . ineffective.

 

[sablebrush52]

Isn't it a bit much to issue a warning just because a tin is ugly?

 

[shermnatman]

I come with my own warning label:

"Must consume 1/2 ounce of Prince Albert per day, or causes excessive grumpiness, increased irritability, and sustained sarcastic replies to stupid questions; you have been warned."

- Sherm Natman

 

[Brendan]

I'll just leave this here...

Mwuhahahaha

 

[Brendan]

Hey wait a minute, I'm 34 as well!

 

[fireground_piper]

Awesome information explains a lot.

The tin art is something i really appreciate.

If I recall, there’s still the potential it could be required again one day. It was shot down because there was a requirement on the FDA to have data behind the reason to issue the warning requirement (warnings will accomplish x, y, z with reports to sustain the claim). They did not have that so the rule needed to be vacated.

 

[TheIronMonkey]

District court of Columbia shot this requirement down last year. It’s only voluntary for cigars and pipe tobacco.

Good to know. I found that on the FDA website, though.

 

[fireground_piper]

Good to know. I found that on the FDA website, though.

They have a disclaimer on the page:

Cigar Labeling and Warning Statement Requirements

Labeling and warning statement requirements for cigar packaging, including those for cigars in small packages and sold individually without packaging.

www.fda.gov

 

[username]

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I'll just leave this here...

Mwuhahahaha

Thank god I used to smoke camels when I smoked cigs . Honestly worse then the warnings is the new plain packaging I’ve seen on Canadian tins. Just drab green with the name of the blend.

 

[burleybreath]

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