UFO's & UAP's: Is the Truth Out There?

[Servant King]

Almost all of the available material on this broad and multifaceted topic is largely BS. Anything readily available is 100% bogus, and can't possibly be otherwise. You have to dig insanely deep, past the psyops, and even then it's a monumental endeavor to filter out the diversions.

That said, I've found that the most spot-on hypothesis of what's really going on was provided by the late Mac Tonnies in his posthumous book, The Cryptoterrestrials. Pretty much in line with the plot of the 1988 documentary, They Live, with some slight tweaks.

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Don't be a pederast...

 

[jpmcwjr]

They definitely have some awesome stuff hidden deep in the labs that we won’t see until it’s ready in a few decades.

Such as? Guesses only; no proprietary info....

 

[jpmcwjr]

Darn. Deleted a bunch of posts that were very borderline.

Please note that ban on politics- including oblique references to politicians is still in force.

 

[HeavyLeadBelly]

Not that I believe in them but if someone had the technology to travel many lightyears to get here, how would our primitive by comparison technology be able to detect them? We're still cavemen compared to that sort of civilization.

I dunno, maybe we’re so stupid as a species they can’t take their eyes off of us….you know, like roadkill. You want to look away but just can’t help yourself to keep looking at the mess

 

[Streeper541]

It's just a very interesting topic....
I've always been fascinated by the idea that there could be some form of intelligent life out there and that humanity might interact with it one day. Hopefully not in an Independence Day/ Starship Troopers sort of way.

 

[Hillcrest]

People all freaking out over the hearing, because of the comments "cannot divulge", which morons all seemed to interpret as "aliens are real." But, one of his last questions was that if there were no evidence of any aliens, would you also say that you could not divulge, he agreed, which in everyone's mind should have just wiped the whole line of questions and responses out as just legal bullshit. But, yet we will have morons who will always use this hearing as "evidence" of a government cover up of aliens. Same morons that believe in bigfoot, Loch Ness Monsters and aliens having built the pyramids.

 

[Hillcrest]

Darn. Deleted a bunch of posts that were very borderline.

Please note that ban on politics- including oblique references to politicians is still in force.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I dunno, maybe we’re so stupid as a species they can’t take their eyes off of us….you know, like roadkill. You want to look away but just can’t help yourself to keep looking at the mess

A civilization like that wouldn't see us as any more than the planets fauna. Termites build amazing structures but we still just see them as pests.

 

[smudgersmissingleg]

Earth. Come for the anal probing, stay for the pie.

 

[Flatfish]

I once saw a small bright light in the distance. The sky behind it was quite dark and grey so the light really stood out. The light moved about in various directions. If the light really was on the distant horizon before the clouds, it must have been not only supersonic, but pulling more g force than any pilot could ever withstand.

Fortunately I had seen the origin of this light a few minutes before the above description.
One squally day with dark clouds, the sun made a brief appearance though the clouds behind me. A seagull flew over my house and flew off into the distance in front of me. The sun lit him up really brightly. After a short while, I could no longer make out that it was a seagull. Just a little bright light moving up and down, swerving right and left.

 

[rectifythis]

Without stirring too much controversy, this book is where I land with the phenomenon...

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[jpmcwjr]

For those who eschew Amazon:

 

[fireground_piper]

Such as? Guesses only; no proprietary info....

I'd love to know! By time you see things in public, those things have been in development for a long time whether government or corporate. I live relatively near a major weapons, munitions and armor research facility.....I pass by it whenever I go to work and I've known a few people who have lived around the facility borders or worked there......and that place is awesome and impressive just seeing it from the outside. Occasionally a chunk of debris will fly through someone's roof.

That's a generally "public" facility in the sense that it's out in the open, labelled, has civilian workers and people living all around it. I can only imagine the type of stuff in research in places they don't want you to even know exist.

 

[autumnfog]

I think it is mostly folklore, Hollywood and want-to-believe.

 

[georged]

Have you ever seen a ten year old kid with an ant farm? One of those two-vertical-sheets-of-glass-a-quarter-inch-apart things that show all the tunnels and caverns the ants dig?

Well, what we think of as our "universe" is just a scaled up ant farm serving as entertainment for a multi-dimensional adolescent child of aliens who have god-like (from our perspective) powers. When he gets bored, he tosses in crap like UFOs, sasquatches, and Loch Ness monsters to stir things up.

Nothing else makes any sense.

 

[Alejo R.]

Intelligent life, given the size and amount of matter we know there is in the universe, almost certainly exists. That they have visited Earth, from what we know of the universe, almost certainly not.

 

[Alejo R.]

The current explanation we have about how the universe works tells us that an object with mass cannot move at the speed of light and even at the speed of light interstellar travel is impractical. On the other hand, the scientific explanation we have about how living beings are formed tells us that the form is related to the environment in which the living being evolved. Therefore, supposed beings from other worlds with eyes, mouth, head, arms and legs are more a reflection of ourselves than a real possibility.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Intelligent life, given the size and amount of matter we know there is in the universe, almost certainly exists. That they have visited Earth, from what we know of the universe, almost certainly not.

Or we are the only remaining populated planet in existence.

 

[Alejo R.]

Or we are the only remaining populated planet in existence.

We will never know, because there are regions of the universe that we cannot observe. We only see the Hubble volume. Curious objects have been observed, such as a possible Dyson sphere, and a few years ago we split the first interstellar object in our neighborhood, Oumuamua. Things that could be clues to other civilizations, but nothing conclusive.

 

[HeavyLeadBelly]

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We will never know, because there are regions of the universe that we cannot observe. We only see the Hubble volume. Curious objects have been observed, such as a possible Dyson sphere, and a few years ago we split the first interstellar object in our neighborhood, Oumuamua. Things that could be clues to other civilizations, but nothing conclusive.

love the idea of a Dyson Sphere and enjoy reading the articles that come out from time to to time regarding them.