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Could you explain to me too please Markw4mms? The topic I was interested is of great importance and was closed without any post explaining why.
It doesn't happen often, but if we feel a topic goes off track, for whatever reason, and is no longer a useful discussion, or has evolved into the type we do not care for in this environment, then it gets closed.
A few may even be deleted, but again, it doesn't happen often.
We don't want to be heavily moderated like some other forums, but we have to balance that and not let things go the other way too.
A few may even be deleted, but again, it doesn't happen often.
We don't want to be heavily moderated like some other forums, but we have to balance that and not let things go the other way too.
That's real shame to hear 
for us UK smokers who may be affected by the issue. I hope it can be reopened with any off topics removed?
for us UK smokers who may be affected by the issue. I hope it can be reopened with any off topics removed?
Start a new thread with the focus on actions you can take to fight the issue.
Who to contact, ideas regarding content of letters to send etc.
Who to contact, ideas regarding content of letters to send etc.
That's what I intend to do once I have had a word about the reasons for the closure with Admin. I don't want to upset anyone, but this is the thin end of a wedge that could affect us all in the future. Hearing the news of the proposed smoking ban made me feel physically sick :crying:
It was most likely my tangental ranting. Having been a mod on a different website, I'm pretty sure it was that it got OT.
Any objections to a new (ON TOPIC) version of the thread for UK forum members? Sorry for the number of posts, but I do feel strongly about the subject matter but don't want to break any forum rules. Being confined to the house by disability makes forums such as this a very important part of my day and therefore I have no wish to be band or to annoy Mods / Admin
I'm with Withnail. I thought the subject was important but of course its one where tempers flare.
I didnt see why it would be closed, but thats why I'm not a Mod.
I didnt see why it would be closed, but thats why I'm not a Mod.
Well - there hasn't been any objections to my opening another thread on the subject so I guess it is ok?
I understand that it must be a hard judgement call for the Admin and Mods to close a thread, but there does seem to be exceptions like those mentioned above. There is even one thread that could invite a claim for liable. although I understand why the original poster was so annoyed.
But when a thread is shut down without a final post giving a reason, it is easy to wonder about it and come up with all sorts of possible explanations. I even thought there might be an anti-British sentiment, but I am sure that was just my paranoia at seeing the one topic I felt most passionately about being closed. I have had a response from my Member of Parliament and will post details later
I understand that it must be a hard judgement call for the Admin and Mods to close a thread, but there does seem to be exceptions like those mentioned above. There is even one thread that could invite a claim for liable. although I understand why the original poster was so annoyed.
But when a thread is shut down without a final post giving a reason, it is easy to wonder about it and come up with all sorts of possible explanations. I even thought there might be an anti-British sentiment, but I am sure that was just my paranoia at seeing the one topic I felt most passionately about being closed. I have had a response from my Member of Parliament and will post details later
I have no problem with opening another thread about that particular topic. The problem lies in keeping it on topic, and avoiding its degradation into a political argument, which can quickly become contentious. That was the basis for closing the thread. Pipe Tobacco Legislation strings are generally short lived, and rarely last more than a single day.
Kevin and I (personally) will generally post a final reply referencing why a string is being closed. Lordnoble and Markw4mms (Jason and Mark) are new to the Moderators game, and are quickly coming up to speed on the subtleties of Forum Moderation. It's not as easy as it sounds. The learning curve is very steep but, is very rewarding.
As for being banned, don't worry about it. That is something that happens very rarely, and only in extreme cases.
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Lawrence - Thank you for your post It has been something of a trying day and seeing that thread closed was the final straw and led to a stronger reaction from me than would normally be the case. Having been both a Mod and Admin on another forum I fully understand the problems (and rewards) it can bring.
As I have now had a reply from my Member of Parliament about the proposed car smoking ban I will post up another thread and hope that others will bring this matter to the attention of their M.P.
It has been something of a trying day and seeing that thread closed was the final straw and led to a stronger reaction from me than would normally be the case. Having been both a Mod and Admin on another forum I fully understand the problems (and rewards) it can bring. As I have now had a reply from my Member of Parliament about the proposed car smoking ban I will post up another thread and hope that others will bring this matter to the attention of their M.P.
as a mod on another board i know the curve is steep and there is ALWAYS someone who gets their knickers in a bunch over topic closing or editing, or, heaven forbid, topic deleting...
there were a couple times my pm basket was overflowing whith whining...
there were a couple times my pm basket was overflowing whith whining...
The new and hopefully on topic version of the thread can be found here - http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/smoking-ban-in-cars-uk-a-step-too-far
The reply I got from my Member of Parliament
The reply I got from my Member of Parliament
It seems that the British Medical Association is just firing a shot across the bows and trying to gauge public support (or lack of it)
I aired my views on this closed topic and would not want to do it again if the topic is reposted under a differant title. I was following all threads and was happy to see all differant views except for when it became a slagging of all England folk and can only guess that this was the reason for it being closed, if this was the reason surely the person that posted the slagging should be imformed of this so the he thinks twice about such a posting again.
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