Tongue Is Disgusting

[Tigerdaz]

The most bite and burn for me was from primo aromatic blends, especially holiday blends with flavorings that seemed to give me a sort of chemical burn. Brushing with mint toothpaste was the same misery all over again. When I changed to non-aromatic blends, even quite strong ones, I had little or no bite/burn etc. Now I rotate in some aromatics, but ones I find decidedly tobacco forward. Your experience may be totally different, but sometimes changing genre of blends can help a lot. Other strategies are to slow down the pace, as mentioned in other posts, and moderate the number of bowls, and in some cases using a filter (your choice of type) might help, especially when you smoke more, like at a pipe shop, pipe club, or pipe show.

Very interesting..
I do have a falcon international so I'll fire it up with a filter..
My favourite pipe is peterson 408 spigot but alas not a filter pipe.... Thanks for the tips.

 

[Tigerdaz]

Very interesting..
I do have a falcon international so I'll fire it up with a filter..
My favourite pipe is peterson 408 spigot but alas not a filter pipe.... Thanks for the tips.

Very interesting..
I do have a falcon international so I'll fire it up with a filter..
My favourite pipe is peterson 408 spigot but alas not a filter pipe.... Thanks for the tips.

 

[Tigerdaz]

Well, after attempting the breath smoking technique without much success although forcing myself to slow slow slow down, I've just probably had my best smoke to date.
Mouth feels better, loads better but not perfect!
I smoked St Bruno flake which I dried out for about 20 mins, I smoked half the bowl and then left for a couple of hours before finishing the bowl and I've got to say I really enjoyed it... A bit of fine tweeking in method and techniques and I'll maybe be able to call myself a pipe smoker soon.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Well, after attempting the breath smoking technique without much success although forcing myself to slow slow slow down, I've just probably had my best smoke to date.
Mouth feels better, loads better but not perfect!
I smoked St Bruno flake which I dried out for about 20 mins, I smoked half the bowl and then left for a couple of hours before finishing the bowl and I've got to say I really enjoyed it... A bit of fine tweeking in method and techniques and I'll maybe be able to call myself a pipe smoker soon.

sounds all good you're,almost there, and one thing to have is Biotene mouthwash,I'm still using it on occasion, primarily if I'm accidentally having that leathery tongue feel or light tingle, all which are results of smoking too fast using tobacco which was not dried enough, St Bruno & Amphora , are very good choices, leave them air dry and pack a bit lighter,tapm down where needed,relights are ok, plus ST Bruno is a bit tricky in this regards,it is a bit hard to keep going on,Best Greets,

 

[cshubhra]

Cool!

Well, after attempting the breath smoking technique without much success although forcing myself to slow slow slow down, I've just probably had my best smoke to date.
Mouth feels better, loads better but not perfect!
I smoked St Bruno flake which I dried out for about 20 mins, I smoked half the bowl and then left for a couple of hours before finishing the bowl and I've got to say I really enjoyed it... A bit of fine tweeking in method and techniques and I'll maybe be able to call myself a pipe smoker soon.

 

[Tigerdaz]

sounds all good you're,almost there, and one thing to have is Biotene mouthwash,I'm still using it on occasion, primarily if I'm accidentally having that leathery tongue feel or light tingle, all which are results of smoking too fast using tobacco which was not dried enough, St Bruno & Amphora , are very good choices, leave them air dry and pack a bit lighter,tapm down where needed,relights are ok, plus ST Bruno is a bit tricky in this regards,it is a bit hard to keep going on,Best Greets,

Advice greatly received 66..thank you

 

[docrameous]

I recently started smoking a pipe. I burned my tongue to a crisp and through trial and error, and leaning into the community here I finally started getting good smokes. Here’s some of my personal learnings. (Your experience may be different)

- pick a non-aromatic tobacco that is reportedly easy to smoke and stick with it. For me it was Prince Albert. (I also like Carter Hall for a simple, easy smoke) Sticking with one tobacco stabilizes a number factors that change from tobacco to tobacco.

- experiment with this one tobacco in drying it out in relation to you relative humidity in your area. Prince Albert already came pretty dry, but East Texas during its summer rains does have an effect. If you smoke outside like I do, pay attention to wind as well.

- use a pipe that has rested. For me, I have had really good results with a couple of MM cobs. If you sense your pipe is getting too moist during the smoke, run a quick pipe cleaner through

- find a packing method that works for you and that particular tobacco cut. I most usually use the 3 stage pack. In general, I packed too tight which led to multiple relights, which brings me to one of the most important points.

- use matches, but if you do use a lighter, use carefully keeping your distance as I find the super heated air was where I was getting most of my tongue bite.

- don’t forget to focus on the use of your tamper. The more I have experimented with how I tamp and chase the ember, the less I relight and the less I get tongue burn

- slow down, but at the same time I found as I chased the ember as I worked the bowl with my tamper, on occasion I need to get the bowl gently going again by picking up the pace and then slow down again. The breath method is a great place I have found to start.

- drink something that is complimentary. I avoid alcohol because of the increased risks, and usually have a glass of ice water or not completely steaming hot black coffee to cleanse and cool my pallet.

- pay attention to the chemistry in your mouth with that particular tobacco. Some tobaccos I think agree better with me than others and can lead to a better experience and less bite.

- learn how much is enough for you. I rarely smoke more than two bowls or every day. My pallet fatigues and I just don’t enjoy it as much. Work and travel requires me to take breaks and I am in the middle of a week off. The cool thing is that when I get back, I will find particularly the first pipe to be unusually good. I will probably smoke Orlik Golden or Pegasus. But this may be just me. The breaks to rest my mouth are good. It’s a personal thing and some on these forums will smoke as much in a day that I will smoke in a week.

This is what has worked for me and by having far less relights and the properties of the cob, with a dry easy to smoke tobacco, I feel a personal technique is starting to evolve. As this has occurred, I have branched out to other tobaccos, including aromatics. As I branch out, I have to experiment again with pack, dryness, etc.

So for at least for me and my thick head, it is pure trial and error. I have had some recent incredible smokes with VaPor flakes such as Orlik Golden Sliced and Luxury Bullseye, but I had a recent disastrous bowl with St. James. It was so bad and I was so discouraged, I smoked a bowl of Carter Hall to hit my stride again. I have found having something tried and tested to fallback to from time to time has been very helpful as I make forays out into the tobacco world expanding my horizon.

The cool thing about this is that this is a pure personal journey with rewards. I am finding as I stick with it that the discovery is half the delight. No doubt in a year I will have learned and evolved more, revising elements to what I just wrote. I am not the same pipe smoker that I was six months ago and I am certain I will be in a different place in another six.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

@Tigerdaz ,My pleasure

 

[anotherbob]

another vote for five brothers as a good burly. It's not just how great the stuff is but it will remind you of roll ups in several ways. Same cut, same similarish flavors, and both are very good at offering up the vitamin N.

 

[SpookedPiper]

The most bite and burn for me was from primo aromatic blends, especially holiday blends with flavorings that seemed to give me a sort of chemical burn. Brushing with mint toothpaste was the same misery all over again. When I changed to non-aromatic blends, even quite strong ones, I had little or no bite/burn etc. Now I rotate in some aromatics, but ones I find decidedly tobacco forward. Your experience may be totally different, but sometimes changing genre of blends can help a lot. Other strategies are to slow down the pace, as mentioned in other posts, and moderate the number of bowls, and in some cases using a filter (your choice of type) might help, especially when you smoke more, like at a pipe shop, pipe club, or pipe show.

That's another good point using a filter. I have found for some reason the lj peretti #8 slices leaves me with a cough and dry throat but accidentally smoked in a cob with a filter and BAM! No cough and no sore throat! So when I want to smoke that blend it has to be in a filter pipe or some sort.

Good luck and try different things to see what works for you ?!

 

[sandollars]

That, sir is a Perfect Petey Peterson Pipe. No one would mistake that for anything else! Well done!

 

[sablebrush52]

Tongue is disgusting

Depends on how you use it.

 

[Tigerdaz]

I recently started smoking a pipe. I burned my tongue to a crisp and through trial and error, and leaning into the community here I finally started getting good smokes. Here’s some of my personal learnings. (Your experience may be different)

- pick a non-aromatic tobacco that is reportedly easy to smoke and stick with it. For me it was Prince Albert. (I also like Carter Hall for a simple, easy smoke) Sticking with one tobacco stabilizes a number factors that change from tobacco to tobacco.

- experiment with this one tobacco in drying it out in relation to you relative humidity in your area. Prince Albert already came pretty dry, but East Texas during its summer rains does have an effect. If you smoke outside like I do, pay attention to wind as well.

- use a pipe that has rested. For me, I have had really good results with a couple of MM cobs. If you sense your pipe is getting too moist during the smoke, run a quick pipe cleaner through

- find a packing method that works for you and that particular tobacco cut. I most usually use the 3 stage pack. In general, I packed too tight which led to multiple relights, which brings me to one of the most important points.

- use matches, but if you do use a lighter, use carefully keeping your distance as I find the super heated air was where I was getting most of my tongue bite.

- don’t forget to focus on the use of your tamper. The more I have experimented with how I tamp and chase the ember, the less I relight and the less I get tongue burn

- slow down, but at the same time I found as I chased the ember as I worked the bowl with my tamper, on occasion I need to get the bowl gently going again by picking up the pace and then slow down again. The breath method is a great place I have found to start.

- drink something that is complimentary. I avoid alcohol because of the increased risks, and usually have a glass of ice water or not completely steaming hot black coffee to cleanse and cool my pallet.

- pay attention to the chemistry in your mouth with that particular tobacco. Some tobaccos I think agree better with me than others and can lead to a better experience and less bite.

- learn how much is enough for you. I rarely smoke more than two bowls or every day. My pallet fatigues and I just don’t enjoy it as much. Work and travel requires me to take breaks and I am in the middle of a week off. The cool thing is that when I get back, I will find particularly the first pipe to be unusually good. I will probably smoke Orlik Golden or Pegasus. But this may be just me. The breaks to rest my mouth are good. It’s a personal thing and some on these forums will smoke as much in a day that I will smoke in a week.

This is what has worked for me and by having far less relights and the properties of the cob, with a dry easy to smoke tobacco, I feel a personal technique is starting to evolve. As this has occurred, I have branched out to other tobaccos, including aromatics. As I branch out, I have to experiment again with pack, dryness, etc.

So for at least for me and my thick head, it is pure trial and error. I have had some recent incredible smokes with VaPor flakes such as Orlik Golden Sliced and Luxury Bullseye, but I had a recent disastrous bowl with St. James. It was so bad and I was so discouraged, I smoked a bowl of Carter Hall to hit my stride again. I have found having something tried and tested to fallback to from time to time has been very helpful as I make forays out into the tobacco world expanding my horizon.

The cool thing about this is that this is a pure personal journey with rewards. I am finding as I stick with it that the discovery is half the delight. No doubt in a year I will have learned and evolved more, revising elements to what I just wrote. I am not the same pipe smoker that I was six months ago and I am certain I will be in a different place in another six.

Wow... Excellent advice thank you

 

[crashthegrey]

It may be irrelevant, but when I first switched to a pipe I also found that my mouth tasted gross when I would sneak a cigarette in. That flavor was ruining my pipe experience. That may or may not be a part of the problem.

 

[Tigerdaz]

It may be irrelevant, but when I first switched to a pipe I also found that my mouth tasted gross when I would sneak a cigarette in. That flavor was ruining my pipe experience. That may or may not be a part of the problem.

Yes I thought the same, thx

 

[weezell]

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Tongue is disgusting

Depends on how you use it.

/QUOTE] And where...

 

[Tigerdaz]

I hear ya ?

 

[sjs1164]

I had a recent disastrous bowl with St. James. It was so bad and I was so discouraged, I smoked a bowl of Carter Hall to hit my stride again.

So strange to read this...I've had a few bowls of St. James this week that left my tongue hurting(even after letting it dry for 12 hours!!) So I had a bowl of Carter Hall on the way to work this morning !! St James always gets me a little, but this was more than a little. It's so good though...worth a little pain!!!

 

[Tigerdaz]

Thanks for that... I've toned things down a little for a day or two and smoking clan... Yes it's an aromatic but I like it and no tongue burn, I have to get a furnace burn now and again to get a true tobacco hit as well but this is whilst I'm in the transition period between roll ups and full time pipe smoking.... I'm definitely getting there, thanks again.

 

[olkofri]

Nothing wrong with an aromatic. Some advise against them when starting out because they tend to smoke hotter due to their higher sugar content. Warning taken, says I even as I reach for my Vauen Auenland Morning Mixture. Learning with aromatics is like learning to drive in a manual transmission: if you can drive manual you can drive auto as well—the converse is not true.