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Professor Moriarty

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If you smoke them properly many ( not all ) tobaccos will not bite. It’s a learning process. Don’t limit yourself to what you read. My grandpas both learned without the internet and so did I. If we could do it I’m sure with the current resources you can too.
I have been smoking pipes properly since 1980! Some of us have more sensitive tongues. Period.
It's not only the tongue, but also 'ashtray mouth'. I and others enjoy smoking a bowl of stout English, but we do not enjoy that strong taste in our mouths all the following day.

An average size bowl (think modern Dunhill 4) lasts me 90 mins if I smoke down to ash,
A larger bowl lasts me 2 hours.
Oh yes, I pack and sip just fine. 👌🏼
 
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If you smoke them properly many ( not all ) tobaccos will not bite. It’s a learning process. Don’t limit yourself to what you read. My grandpas both learned without the internet and so did I. If we could do it I’m sure with the current resources you can too.
In your grandpas' time they no doubt had a lot more pipes smokers around them to learn from. And you in turn could learn from your grandpas. A lot of pipe smokers today (most, very likely) have no one around them at all who smoke pipes (not even their tobacconist) and if they have a query forums like this are the only place to ask.
 

Peter Turbo

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Bjarne Flake De Luxe is probably one of the kindest VA's I've smoked, very soft and easy on the mouth.

Was at Owl Shop in New Haven, CT last night and got an ounce of their Balkan blend "Harkness Tower" super creamy and easy on the tongue as well. Might be one of the best Balkans I ever smoked.
 

Briar Lee

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In fifty years of trying gadget pipes with devices to mitigate tongue bite, I’ve found they all work.

The first gadget pipes had stingers. The smoke smacked into the stinger at high speed and a little tar was deposited on the stinger.

Then in the thirties Dr Grabow invented the mass market 6mm filter still used today. It’s a filter. It traps a little tar, a lot of moisture.

Kaywoodie came up with the carburetor in the thirties, a tiny hole in the bottom of the bowl. The later E A Carey and Duncan Hill designs work on the same principle. A tiny bit of cool air is added to the smoke stream. It works.

Savenelli has balsa wood inserts that work like a metal stinger, maybe a bit better.

The metal stem Falcon type pipes use a radiator principle to cool the smoke. So did Churchwardens, by an extra long stem.

My favorite gadget pipes are the 9mm charcoal filter pipes. Since pi r square (and so is cornbread.:) ) the filtering media and area of a 9mm filter is much more than a 6mm filter. They filter more.

What I didn’t know until recently was the very best way to reduce the pain of puffing is to smoke great big chambered pipes made of the top export grade of Algerian briar before 1954.

If you can learn to love the looks of them, you’ll pull the stingers out of a big Marxman to get more flavor.

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An old Algerian briar pipe works to reduce bite because it tastes so good you’ll adapt your cadence to savor it more.

The bigger chamber and thicker walls the better, but they were every one good.

Until November 1, 1954, when the briar pickers in Algeria decided to shoot all the French inspectors instead of picking their briar.:)
 
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I think every person is different. I've tried just about every kind of tobacco there is. The only kind I can smoke is burley. Or a burley blend with just slight hints of Virginia's.

I've never gotten "tongue bite" but Anything tobacco other than burley gives me "roof rash"
 

mortonbriar

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I think every person is different. I've tried just about every kind of tobacco there is. The only kind I can smoke is burley. Or a burley blend with just slight hints of Virginia's.

I've never gotten "tongue bite" but Anything tobacco other than burley gives me "roof rash"
Yeah, different is true. Any blend with perique gives me tongue bite, roof rash and tonsil torture.
 

HeavyLeadBelly

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Nine times out of ten I replace the filter after each bowl. That's largely because I like to run a pipe cleaner through between every smoke, mostly to keep the mouthpiece and stem dry, and to do that the filter has to be removed so it might as well be replaced.
The filter will continue to do its job for two or three bowls but I find it imparts progressively more of that acrid dottle taste the longer it stays in, so for the price of the things I prefer to replace them each time.
Sometimes I don't bother with lighter, milder tobaccos in small pipes or if I'm smoking two bowls in quick succession, usually when I'm out somewhere and have only taken one pipe and no spare filters with me, but with strong dark blends and large bowls I always replace with every smoke.
I have a large Chacom Robusto that lasts for well over an hour and I smoke strong Kendal flakes in that one. The filter will come out feeling distinctly damp to the touch and a dark leather brown in colour so it's always replaced.
I appreciate the feedback. I’ve never really used filters but might try them out so I can enjoy Mac Bitey and Peretti blends as they both seem to bite the hell out of me regardless of how I approach them. However the HH blends from McB I have no issues with.
 
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For those of us who are super prone to tongue bite, which tobacco's have you found to be most merciful?

Burely blends...

If you like Burely, be sure to try Uhle’s Blend 00.


Uhle’s is also considered one of the finest for Burely.

But, L.J. Peretti is tops too!

 

Professor Moriarty

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Yeah, different is true. Any blend with perique gives me tongue bite, roof rash and tonsil torture
May I ask, what exactly is "roof rash"?
Is it this?
"In nicotinic stomatitis, the hard palate (roof of the mouth) appears white instead of pink, and numerous, small raised areas with red centers are found throughout the palate (see Left). These red areas are irritated minor salivary glands whose duct openings are inflamed in response to the heat from tobacco products."
 
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Professor Moriarty

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I appreciate the feedback. I’ve never really used filters but might try them out so I can enjoy Mac Bitey and Peretti blends as they both seem to bite the hell out of me regardless of how I approach them. However the HH blends from McB I have no issues with.
I have seen numerous complaints about Mac Baren blends on forums. Do they have a bad rep for biting?
 
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mortonbriar

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May I ask, what exactly is "roof rash"?
Is it this?
"In nicotinic stomatitis, the hard palate (roof of the mouth) appears white instead of pink, and numerous, small raised areas with red centers are found throughout the palate (see Left). These red areas are irritated minor salivary glands whose duct openings are inflamed in response to the heat from tobacco products."
I was just following @didimauw for terminology, but all I meant was a discomfort on the roof of the mouth and back of throat rather than tip of tongue...
 
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May I ask, what exactly is "roof rash"?
Is it this?
"In nicotinic stomatitis, the hard palate (roof of the mouth) appears white instead of pink, and numerous, small raised areas with red centers are found throughout the palate (see Left). These red areas are irritated minor salivary glands whose duct openings are inflamed in response to the heat from tobacco products."
I was just following @didimauw for terminology, but all I meant was a discomfort on the roof of the mouth and back of throat rather than tip of tongue...
Correct. Honestly I never looked at the roof of my mouth afterwards. And I just started calling it that. Just used to get irritated up there. My straight billiards all hang at such an angle that the smoke hits the roof of my mouth. Doesn't touch the tongue till later lol.

Now after so many years, I'm used to it. But also another reason I don't own and "P-lip " style stems.
 
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HeavyLeadBelly

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I have seen numerous complaints about Mac Baren blends on forums. Do they have a bad rep for biting?
Well I think you answered your own question lol.

But I think it’s people PH along with how they smoke MB products. But I’m not the only one who gets bit and it’s annoying because I think it’s decent tobacco. As for Peretti I’ve tried a bunch of their flakes and always get bit. It’s gotta be my PH but maybe I just smoke like a freight train even when I’m trying to slow down to just a sip :/
 
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Correct. Honestly I never looked at the roof of my mouth afterwards. And I just started calling it that. Just used to get irritated up there. My straight billiards all hang at such an angle that the smoke hits the roof of my mouth. Doesn't touch the tongue till later lol.

Now after so many years, I'm used to it. But also another reason I don't own and "P-lip " style stems.
I have the same issue with P-lip. All of mine I replaced with fishtail -- adds to the cost and bother but some old petes have dense grain and smoke great, after a bitch of a break-in.
 
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This is an interesting question, Professor, albeit hard to answer definitively, because bite has a lot to do with an individual's sensitivity, as you correctly pointed out earlier.

For me, the burley-forward blends and traditional English blends produce the least bite. Something like Haunted Bookshop or Ashton's Artisan Blend can be smoked with little chance of bite for me, even if I smoke a bit carelessly.

I never enjoyed filters very much, but I do enjoy my deluxe system Petersons. Their gimmicks seem to help when I smoke the rare blend that may bite me, though thankfully my technique is pretty solid and I am not very sensitive. Do you find system pipes help?
 
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For me, the burley-forward blends and traditional English blends produce the least bite. Something like Haunted Bookshop or Ashton's Artisan Blend can be smoked with little chance of bite for me, even if I smoke a bit carelessly.
I'd agree with that. The smoothest coolest blend I regularly smoke is Solani aged burley flake. The Petersons burleys I smoke tend to be the ones with a touch of perique which is a bit more prickly, but as I smoke with filters I've never experienced any bite.
 
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Professor Moriarty

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This is an interesting question, Professor, albeit hard to answer definitively, because bite has a lot to do with an individual's sensitivity, as you correctly pointed out earlier.

For me, the burley-forward blends and traditional English blends produce the least bite. Something like Haunted Bookshop or Ashton's Artisan Blend can be smoked with little chance of bite for me, even if I smoke a bit carelessly.

I never enjoyed filters very much, but I do enjoy my deluxe system Petersons. Their gimmicks seem to help when I smoke the rare blend that may bite me, though thankfully my technique is pretty solid and I am not very sensitive. Do you find system pipes help?
Peterson system pipes -- they do not help me with bite, I do not care for the P-lip, although the reservoir in bents does help with moisture collection
 
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