"Tobacco Purity Law" in Great Britain. Myth or Reality?

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yaddy306

Lifer
Aug 7, 2013
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Finding the actual law would solve this problem. I have been looking this morning but cannot find anything. I wonder how much is custom vs actual legal codes. Take the German purity laws for beer as an example. The law was written over five hundred years ago by a government that no longer exists: the Holy Roman Empire.
^^^ This!
The German Purity Law can be traced back to a specific year (1516), can be read in German and has been translated into English, has its own wikipedia article, etc.
The "English Tobacco Purity Law of unspecified year and questionable provenance"? Not so much.

 
Wait, so if the purity law was to stop things like WarHorse Bar from happening, Gallaher ltd was putting out War Horse till like the 80's right? I am not sure on the years, but it wasn't that long ago. I am confused, but I suspect War Horse was used as a bad example. I know that I have heard tales of hemp being mixed with tobacco in early naval blends, and I guess that if you looked at all of the leaves, twigs and dried junk the Native Americans crushed into their tobacco, they barely smoked any tobacco.

 

mikethompson

Comissar of Christmas
Jun 26, 2016
11,862
25,742
Near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
In the Ask G.L. Pease blog on this very site, this was what was said:
The old English purity laws forbade blenders from using artificial flavorings and adulterants in tobaccos in large measure. There was a list of approved additives, which had to be dissolved in alcohol or water, and could only be applied at small percentages
Ask G.L. Pease

 

yaddy306

Lifer
Aug 7, 2013
1,372
505
Regina, Canada
In the Ask G.L. Pease blog on this very site, this was what was said:
The old English purity laws forbade blenders from using artificial flavorings and adulterants in tobaccos in large measure. There was a list of approved additives, which had to be dissolved in alcohol or water, and could only be applied at small percentages

Ask G.L. Pease
Yup, and in the christianpipesmokers link above, they called it a myth and questioned why Pease was propagating it.

 
It doesn't make sense why they would say that a law was created to reduce the crap added to tobacco, and yet they have Lakelands with crappy junk piled on top of it, and things like narcotics added to War Horse Bar up until the 1980's. Which is it?

I have also heard the purity laws used to explain why we call latakia blends, Englishes.

 

workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
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The Faroe Islands
It is also being said that Margaret Thatcher dumped the laws in 1986 to get a more free market. It's all just hearsay, I'll admit that. It is difficult to find laws that have been abandoned, it seems. I'm no Google-wizard and I can't find any good sources.

 
Oct 7, 2016
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There was a lot of discussion on this topic going back to the old Alt Smokers Pipes newsgroup. My best memory (faulty) is that no one ever came up with an actual law text. My impression was that some things were in fact strictly prohibited, but many others were permitted though perhaps only in certain concentrations.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,128
Akron area of Ohio
Many of the old blends produced in England and Scotland began moving production out of Great Britain about 1980. There are those who say it was because of this law. There was a good article in P&T (probably by Ben Rapapport (sp)) about what used to be put into pipe tobacco. Most of it was not tobacco.
Mike S.

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Southern Oregon
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Okay, so I did a bit of research and finally found something. If you try a search using "British Tobacco Purity Laws", you will find nothing. In Britain, laws are Acts. And the purity acts aren't exactly what you would expect. They go back as far as the Reign of Charles II and follow up at least through the reign of George II. There may be later permutations, but I didn't have the time to further waste. One of you can do that by performing a worldcat search, using British Tobacco Act as three keywords in an advanced search. If you want to read the actual documents you will have to go to a university whose library collections include copies of this material, or contact the Barrister of your choosing, but I could read the basic points through worldcat. Essentially, the Acts were made to stop the adulteration of tobaccos being shipped from the Americas, wherein they cited adulteration by such foreign material as "floor sweepings" etc which were used to increase the apparent weight of the shipments. There was other chicanery mentioned as well, but the basic point is that tobacco should be comprised of tobacco, not dirt, lint, other crops, etc.

 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
12,912
21,599
SE PA USA
I think that we are looking at 300 years of whisper down the lane.
My WAG is that some of the strictures on tobacco content is ensconced in regulation, not law.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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16,099
In a perfect world, ensuring the purity of tobacco would be the only possible legitimate government function related to it. Sounds like a myth.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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30,341
Carmel Valley, CA
Followed closely, for me, by "ensconced". Me, I am ensconced in my favorite chair, figuring out what chicanery to apply to my tax return.
Ok, not really. I don't want to go to jail. But I am sitting on my ass in that fine chair.

 

snagstangl

Lifer
Jul 1, 2013
1,635
815
Iowa, United States
"Finding the actual law would solve this problem." Have you read laws before, just because we find them doesn't mean they will make sense. Or maybe i am jaded from reading recent legislation.

 
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