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duncan

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 28, 2010
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Just tried the microwave bit on my bulk I just bought and yeppers you here the sealing pop in about 10 minutes.

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
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Chicago, IL
@ staffwalker,

Thanks for describing your method. The process is different from mine in several respects, but then again I've never been satisfied with the way my have bulks aged. So it's time for this old dog to try some new tricks. Thanks.

 

bubbadreier

Lifer
Jul 30, 2010
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Norman, Oklahoma
Now I just need to buy my bulk tobaccos and then I can try this out.
So far I have decided to get 2 pounds of Lane 1Q, 1 pound of Lane BCA, possibly 1 pound of Stokeby's Bulls Eye flake, and I am getting 1 more pound of something else. Any more suggestions?

 

bubbadreier

Lifer
Jul 30, 2010
3,011
4
Norman, Oklahoma
Okay so I bought 4 more ounces of Lane 1Q (before I buy the bulk) to try out some different methods of storing. I cleaned three jars first, then I tried just putting 1oz in a jar and closed it up. I put another 1oz in a jar after heating up the rubber gasket on the lid. For the last 2oz I put it in the jar and microwaved for 15 seconds and heated up the gasket for the lid and then put it on. The last two popped but the first didn't (I expected that, of course). So I guess I am just going to use Bob's (staffwalker) method once I buy the bulk!

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
15,147
7,623
Chicago, IL
Bubba, you asked
I am getting 1 more pound of something else. Any more suggestions?

McClelland's 5100 Virginia Red Cake ages really well -- undergoes a marvelous transformation. It's also a gregarious mixer if you're into tweaking and custom blending.

 

bubbadreier

Lifer
Jul 30, 2010
3,011
4
Norman, Oklahoma
I am not into tweaking yet, I do not believe my tastes are fully developed yet. But I might as well get it and store it, because you never know where I will be in a few years! Thanks for the suggestion!

 
May 8, 2017
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Sugar Grove, IL, USA
The microwave? Sounds kinda radical to me. I like the idea of filling fresh from the dishwasher although it would greatly surprise me if even that amount of attention to sanitation is really necessary. Although I have no long term proof that my method works, I have little doubt it will be fine. I take clean jars and new lids, fill them, packing fairly tightly so as to minimize air and required cellaring space. Put on the lid, minus the ring, suck out the air using a Foodsaver jar adapter, test the seal, screw on the ring and store. Foodsavers are routinely at thrift stores for $15 or so, by the way. The jar adapters are available for both standard and wide mouth lids and is about $15, new.

 
May 4, 2015
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IMO vacuum sealing is an unnecessary step. I think a little oxygen is necessary for good aging, and after a little bit of fermentation, the jars will seal themselves anyway.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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Carmel Valley, CA
Agree. And packing as tightly as you can still leaves plenty of oxygen in the jar.
Interesting to note that if the OP jarred stuff up when he started the thread, he'd have some six year aged tobacco!

 
May 8, 2017
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Sugar Grove, IL, USA
Actually, I agree. My vacuum treatment is probably unnecessary, but it doesn't remove enough air to prevent aging. But it does prove that I have achieved a good seal. My last batch of jars had one defective jar that refused to seal, so I threw a silicone disk on top of the tobacco as an insurance policy.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,265
29,161
Carmel Valley, CA
Aging happens regardless of how much or little oxygen is in the container. It's been stated by some that less air helps it age better/faster.
One could retard aging by deep freezing but I don't know anyone who wants to stop or slow the process for fresh tobaccos.

 

krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
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With 6 years of age on it, this thread has really mellowed and smoothed out. Everyone's opinions have really melded together nicely.

 
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