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jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
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At $230us after shipping I’m going to wait until I’m back home next year before taking one for the team.

@jpberg how does it compare strength/flavour wise to tambo?
Take it with a grain of salt, because this is only me;
Tambolaka hit me good and hard, nic hit hiccups, a bit of the spinners, etc.
All good stuff.
Mapacho affected my digestive system. That’s the nicest way I can say it.
I really liked it, it I don’t know if I’ll ever smoke it again.
 

Ahi Ka

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Feb 25, 2020
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Take it with a grain of salt, because this is only me;
Tambolaka hit me good and hard, nic hit hiccups, a bit of the spinners, etc.
All good stuff.
Mapacho affected my digestive system. That’s the nicest way I can say it.
I really liked it, it I don’t know if I’ll ever smoke it again.
Good to know. Sounds like it’s time for you to get hold of some Rapa Nui tobacco.
 
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mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
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I am traveling with my wife (of 32 years) and she speaks Vietnamese fluently. I will be exploring all the possibilities of bulk tobacco in the region, which I will take back to the States with me and attempt to blend. Should be an adventure. On a side note, thanks to Ahi Ka's encouragement (and not so subtle pushing)... I will be growing my own tobacco in 2025.
Whoa, growing thuốc lào in California. That'll be a hoot!
 
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MisterBadger

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Right... for other members of the Pipe Forums lunatic fringe, here's an update on my adventures with the stinking Indo-Chinese sotweed...

I infused half an ounce or so three weeks ago, in a Tupperware container with a tot of Navy rum placed in the middle. This muted the awful taste and aroma but made it so damp I had to tin-dry a couple of pipefuls for a couple of days. After that, it was still awful - underneath the rum I could still taste the burnt chicken left too long on the barbecue, the boiled cabbage and the blocked drains bouquet, but not half as bad as before infusing, and it still needed several relights.

I then tried one third Thuoc Lao mixed with two thirds Tabac Manil Semois La Volute, hoping the strong cigar-like taste would vanquish it. It did, somewhat, and the easy combustability of the Semois did encourage the Thuoc Lao to stay lit - the char-light lasted for the first quarter of the bowl.

Even so, the persistent acridity of the Thuoc Lao still came through, so that the mix tasted and smelled woody, green and sharp-sour like an autumn bonfire, defeating the mellowness of the Semois Burley..

If I ever do this again, I shall only sprinkle a pinch or two, well dried, into a loading of some strongly-flavoured but nicotine-low blend I want to strengthen somewhat.

What else can one reasonably expect of an uncouth rustica that is grown only for its afficionados to get a fast nicotine rush without regard for taste or aroma? Even diluted in a mix, it made me, a fairly nicotine-tolerant smoker, stoned and temporarily unfit for anything useful for an hour or two, and the foul mouth taste just isn't worth the high.

What else to say? It pairs horribly with black coffee, and if this is the same or similar to the stuff that Gudang Garam is made with, I'm not surprised the Indonesians lace it heavily with ground cloves.

Sotweed: that's the only name for it.
 

Ahi Ka

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In the interests of science and research with integrity, you need to at least try smoking the aforementioned sotweed through water.

 
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MisterBadger

Lifer
Oct 6, 2024
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In the interests of science and research with integrity, you need to at least try smoking the aforementioned sotweed through water.

I learned how to manufacture those wicked things during my largely mis-spent youth. But smoking tobacco through one will be a novelty, at least :)
 
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jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
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Right... for other members of the Pipe Forums lunatic fringe, here's an update on my adventures with the stinking Indo-Chinese sotweed...

I infused half an ounce or so three weeks ago, in a Tupperware container with a tot of Navy rum placed in the middle. This muted the awful taste and aroma but made it so damp I had to tin-dry a couple of pipefuls for a couple of days. After that, it was still awful - underneath the rum I could still taste the burnt chicken left too long on the barbecue, the boiled cabbage and the blocked drains bouquet, but not half as bad as before infusing, and it still needed several relights.

I then tried one third Thuoc Lao mixed with two thirds Tabac Manil Semois La Volute, hoping the strong cigar-like taste would vanquish it. It did, somewhat, and the easy combustability of the Semois did encourage the Thuoc Lao to stay lit - the char-light lasted for the first quarter of the bowl.

Even so, the persistent acridity of the Thuoc Lao still came through, so that the mix tasted and smelled woody, green and sharp-sour like an autumn bonfire, defeating the mellowness of the Semois Burley..

If I ever do this again, I shall only sprinkle a pinch or two, well dried, into a loading of some strongly-flavoured but nicotine-low blend I want to strengthen somewhat.

What else can one reasonably expect of an uncouth rustica that is grown only for its afficionados to get a fast nicotine rush without regard for taste or aroma? Even diluted in a mix, it made me, a fairly nicotine-tolerant smoker, stoned and temporarily unfit for anything useful for an hour or two, and the foul mouth taste just isn't worth the high.

What else to say? It pairs horribly with black coffee, and if this is the same or similar to the stuff that Gudang Garam is made with, I'm not surprised the Indonesians lace it heavily with ground cloves.

Sotweed: that's the only name for it.
That is a great review. Well done.