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baronsamedi

Lifer
May 4, 2011
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The fabric of civilization is much thinner than most people realize.
Careful, even in Texas I get called a nut for reminding people of that. Foggy's got the right attitude for facing trouble. I always tell people the only difference between a disaster and an adventure is your attitude. Trouble is inevitable. You can control your attitude.

 

ssjones

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Al: Yes, take the 8th ave c train to soho for Thompsom & 6th. I am not sure exactly how far north or south it is. If you call them ask if it the spring st. stop. You told me the 13th, but this week is ok. I will wait to hear from you.
Thanks. I'm a little familar with the Spring Street stop. A few of my motorcyclist buddies used to get together weekly at "The Ear" in Soho (oldest bar in NYC?)
HopStop gave me these directions:

Take the E train from 34 Street - Penn Station station (departs every 6 mins) heading Downtown / to World Trade Center

Other options: A,C

Get off at Canal St

Exit near intersection of THOMPSON ST and AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS (6TH AVE)

Start out going North on AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS (6TH AVE) towards GRAND ST

Turn right onto WATTS ST

Is the C train better than the E? (or is the E not yet running?)

 

whitebriar

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Jul 14, 2010
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First off I am very happy to hear you are ok.
second; what a great post... I love hearing when people have these "epiphanies", "self realizations" or just plain "true learning and growing"
third; I completely agree, I believe we all need to get back to a more primitive way of life... if even just on occasion (as in camping) to help us re-charge, to help us become more grounded.

I believe we as people are not meant to live in these massive cities with millions of other people, I feel we lose "something" when we do... I believe we are supposed to to live in much smaller communities in order to be "truly" happy and content... which compared to today's standards is in a way more "primitive"
I hope I am making sense as I have only had half a cup of coffee!
i also echo the captain
it is amazing what electricity has done to society--it will be equally amazing what society will become if we ever lose it as we know it

 
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Al: What night and time? What is the address of Hop Stop? Any west side train stops at Canal st. I am not sure which are running, but the C or E is good.

 

jaywellington

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Aug 24, 2012
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Very eloquent and interesting post!

How many small aspects of life we miss because of Progress, which is otherwise a major thing.

It is at such times that we learn to appreciate the small things...

I only had a light bulb burn-out in my bathroom, and for a couple of days the only light there were a few aromatic candles.

When I replaced the light bulb, I realized what a romantic thing that was (albeit a strange thing to say about a bathroom!),

I can imagine how something even bigger can get you thinking.
Have a great night, now that the electricity must have returned!
:puffpipe:

 

hunter

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Sep 9, 2012
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Good to hear you made it through okay. I spent a lot of time on my grandparents farm which had limited indoor plumbing, wood heat, and about 6 lights that ran off batteries and a diesel generator for the tv and some other electrical odds and ends. Currently I'm working on building up a store of emergency foods and water.

 

ssjones

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They have dinner at 6 PM, till "whenever the matches runout". I probably can't stay past 10 as I have to ride back to Penn Station then over to NJ, then drive to my hotel.
I use Hop Stop a lot as I don't go into the city that often and it is pretty reliable in a mix of walking/subway directions.

http://www.hopstop.com/search

 

chopz

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Oct 14, 2011
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i learned that empty mabaron's tins make good candle holders. we were without power until friday. no heat. my workplace still has no power and i was afraid they'd get up and running and i'd have to do the drive and then figure out how to get gas. i read an article online where a guy said he waited in line for 16 hours on friday, filled his tank and then was back in line on saturday with gas cans - complaining about the lines. stupid jackass, i thought - this is the kind of person who's exacerbating the problem in the first place.
i know new york got it bad. they had 900k people without power. we had 2 and a half million here. still got a lot without power.

 

chops

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Sep 26, 2011
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Foggy- I agree that it's good for us to get back to our basics at times. It helps us think of what we've got. I also live in the NYC area, and I definitely learned some lessons from this storm.
Foggy & Al, I will also be at the NYC pipe meeting next week. See you there!

 

dochudson

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May 11, 2012
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Concerning Hurricane Sandy, I've heard a week's worth of whining and complaining on my car's wireless device during the daily commute and I'm glad to hear a voice of reason after our most recent natural disaster.
You intellectualized the hurricane, Foggy, and took every thing to another level. I'm assuming you queued up for water, and possibly MREs, but you also very quickly came to the realization that electricity has driven civilization as we know it further and farther than our grandfathers and great-grandfathers could've imagined. (My late mother remembered electricity and indoor plumbing arriving to their SW Missouri family farm in the late 1930's.)
You took the high road, Foggy, and God bless you, Brother.
Fnord
not to downplay Foggy's plight but being in a NYC highrise with all his stuff intact taking the highroad may be a little different then for these folks pictures

 

fnord

Lifer
Dec 28, 2011
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Agreed, Doc, and thank you for that montage of photographs.
Still, I'm always surprised at the reaction of people to natural disasters. And I'm always surprised at how poorly most people are prepared for whatever calamity befalls them. When you live near water there's always a chance of floods. When you live in the mountains count on getting snowed in every now and again. You've got to have a Plan B and most people don't. They sit back and wait for "the government" to bail them out and complain the loudest when government services are working through the same problems affecting the local citizenry.
Growing up in the Midwest tornados are always a constant spring through fall as is snow and ice in the winter. The Fnords learned, many years ago, to lay in two week's worth of supplies and rotate them through as expiration dates near: food, bottled water, batteries, meds, etc.
We couldn't withstand an end of the world scenario, but we'd make out okay until basic services were restored. Of course, there are also enough arms and munitions available to deter those not as well prepared.

 
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Nice pictures Hudson. Who said anything about a highrise. Though maybe my 3 story building was a bit of a highrise when they built it, between the Revolutionary and Civil wars. No elevator, no doorman, no concierge, no health club, no garage, no laundry room.

 

dochudson

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May 11, 2012
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I live close to Amish country in Ohio and anything with more then one floor is a high rise to us.. I wasn't trying to down-grade your problems but being high and dry beats the others options. look's like NYC will get close to 50 the next 5 days and only get below freezing tonight. If I ever get to NYC again (which I like visiting) I'll look you up for a smoke. My daughter was just there 6 or 8 weeks ago and brought me some of the frshly rolled cigars from Mulberry Tobacco I figure there were for tourist but I thought they were quite good.

 

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So, you are not living like Eli Manning, Foggy? I laughed a little when they showed the picture of him in his flooded high-rise lobby. Poor Eli, probably lost cable and internet for a few hours.
That slide show was incredible. I work a lot around Somers Point and those NJ beach towns, and recognize a lot of those locations. The ferocity of the ocean at Brigantine Beach was incredible and scary.
I saw this cover of the New York Magazine today, very eerie:

new-york-magazine-cover.jpg


 

ssjones

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I drove some chicken up Saturday night to Seaside Heights NJ, our restaurant there finally got the power back and was opening on Sunday. The owner, lived on the bay, across from the beach. He had a $1 million plus home and a collection of Ferrari's in his lower level garage. He left Monday night with virtually the clothes on his back and family. He has been told his house was out in the street, but can't get back into see the damage for himself. He paid a kid $20 to run him across the bay on a Jet Ski, but the police caught them and turned them back.
I can't believe he didn't try to get some of his items out of the house on Sunday. He said they all thought it wouldn't hit them. Amazing. At least his business wasn't destroyed as well. We spent most of Sunday securing patio furniture, etc. in anticipation of the wind damage. That saved us from any minor damage.

 
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