The Zombie Apocalypse Continues
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I'm the laziest Black Friday shopper. I got my butt out of bed, lit a pipe and pressed a Buy-Now button on Amazon.
And I always thought president Lincoln was a... well, a dick. So no worries their.
And I always thought president Lincoln was a... well, a dick. So no worries their.
@elbert:
@warren:
@brian64 (an upgrade from brian32?):
What is most interesting is that warren just mentioned our decline as an empire, and nobody panicked.
Very telling...
And then there's the Greek experience, of course, recounted in The Republic, an easy-to-read book found just about anywhere.
Wonder if we learned anything?
Aesthetics can be a powerful guide. I tend to agree, and merely wait for online sales.
@warren:
I like this. The future is what we make it to be. Not what we make of it.
@brian64 (an upgrade from brian32?):
I tend to agree.
What is most interesting is that warren just mentioned our decline as an empire, and nobody panicked.
Very telling...
And then there's the Greek experience, of course, recounted in The Republic, an easy-to-read book found just about anywhere.
Wonder if we learned anything?
I believe my only comment regarding the past was pertaining to our loss of manufacturing. I must disagree that it was neither good nor bad compared to now in this regard...imo it is much better to have the manufacturing here. The reasons for this are so elementary as to require no explanation.
lol...not sure what that pertains to? I've always been brian64 on here.
Our transformation from a Constitutional Republic to an Empire was a process of decline and corruption, rather than progress, imo...a step backward rather than forward.
The pilosophy of Stuff. And to imagine our society worked on these holidays, many, many years ago. People didn't have time to act like a herd of imbeciles. Oh, I'm reminiscing on a time much more simpler than an age that will try to move consciousness into a robot. Shame on me. I'll move this over to Twitter, to keep this forum civilized.
There you go! Our decline is simply part of the normal scheme of things. But, it is neither a step forward or backward, it is the normal progression.
America didn't lose manufacturing, America ran it off to other countries. It was done in a conscious effort to keep profits up and prices competitive. Stock holders insist on a return in their investments. Without investors you do not have manufacturers.
America didn't lose manufacturing, America ran it off to other countries. It was done in a conscious effort to keep profits up and prices competitive. Stock holders insist on a return in their investments. Without investors you do not have manufacturers.
Thanks for posting that Proclamation by Lincoln, Warren. Now post what the Progressive did in the name of profit (which are fine by me) and distorted these times for which our society reserved to the Most High. Only find it ironic since Progressive Marxist hate profit. Great points Warren.
...and entirely avoidable by not making certain idiotic decisions, such as democracy, at least according to Plato.
People who do not have freedom, desire it. Those who have freedom eventually take it for granted and are willing to trade a bit of it for security. Then a bit more and a bit . . .
In the case of the USA, it was demonstrably a step backward simply by the fact that the Revolution was fought in order to gain independence from living under an Empire. Therefore becoming an Empire ourselves is a step backward.
Semantics. If it was run off, then it was lost. But, imo, how and why it was done go a lot further down the rabbit hole than just the profit motive...but that's another discussion for some other time.
It was lost to some people. For the stockholders and owners of the companies there was financial gain which is a good thing. There are always winners and losers. It is much better to be a winner than a loser. It is always profits which drive business. What else can it be. Profit is the reason businesses exist. If taxes, expenses etc can be reduced by moving, the Board of Directors better make the move or they will find themselves unemployed. I expect nothing more or less from the companies I, my retirement fund and Alaska's Permanent Fund are invested in.
Taxes, regulations and unions all drove a lot of American manufacturing (and other jobs) offshore.
Next time someone says "And it's all free" translate that to "and in 20 years, the industry will barely exist."
This is why the FFs -- who actually knew how to run a business -- envisioned a government without welfare, health insurance, affirmative action, etc. Any transfer of wealth from the whole to a specific group enables tyranny.
Then again, one in ten voters could understand this thread, so it's a moot point once you get democracy, freedom, liberty, equality and other civilization-wreckers in the picture.
Next time someone says "And it's all free" translate that to "and in 20 years, the industry will barely exist."
This is why the FFs -- who actually knew how to run a business -- envisioned a government without welfare, health insurance, affirmative action, etc. Any transfer of wealth from the whole to a specific group enables tyranny.
Then again, one in ten voters could understand this thread, so it's a moot point once you get democracy, freedom, liberty, equality and other civilization-wreckers in the picture.
Yea, Democracy doesn't equal freedom or Liberty its MoB Rule. Look at the October Revolution and you will see Democracy at work, a dictatorship arises everytime.
Equality is a different monster altogether. Man is imperfect and therefore never gonna be equal. I'm sure I don't have to beat this into the ground on this forum. Everyone understands the evil of the concept of equal and its manipulation by politicians, moving on.
Got Lost at Liberty and Freedom. Our civil society stands on a firm ground of law. Our liberty is protected by this law. I use the term happiness, as our founders understood the Latin concept of the word(not the Greek=Joy) as a moral risk. This is the Liberty that we fight for. In the word happiness, the practice of Lassiez Faire is intended. Smart founding fathers. Personal Responsibility and Lassiez Faire in one word.
A proper education would have cured a few of these idiots, who believe they are entitled to everything they do not have. An Education system that isn't a propaganda machine for a leviathan, would serve us best. We are dealing with uneducated cattle, and they have the power to vote and strip us of Liberty, right out from under our noses.
We must remember that Marxism(Socialism, Fascism, Communism,etc) is not compatible with our Constitution. And need to deal with it from that stand point. Allow your own insight, to render that statement as you will.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
If you can manipulate the mob, the hive brain, then you can control/steer a "democratic society".
It all comes full circle to what "black Friday" represents...the fact that the unconscious masses are participating in their own destruction by spending their money with the big corporate chains on mass marketed slave goods.
The first 10 minutes or so of the below documentary explains a lot.
https://vimeo.com/75776128
If you can manipulate the mob, the hive brain, then you can control/steer a "democratic society".
It all comes full circle to what "black Friday" represents...the fact that the unconscious masses are participating in their own destruction by spending their money with the big corporate chains on mass marketed slave goods.
The first 10 minutes or so of the below documentary explains a lot.
https://vimeo.com/75776128
Warren beat this one into shape pretty well and gave original history of Thanksgiving via the Tyrant Lincoln.
But Brian74, I don't buy the Anti-corporate Marxist jargon. That big corporate entity puts food in somebody's stomach. Never held a job, working for a poor man.
What you see is poor upbringing, which in most cases is perpetrated by a government that seeks to replace daddy. Or poor secular education, which espouses Entitlement Collectivism. These are dangerous experiments that the Progressives have been advocating for over a hundred years. Oh, they believe they can do it better than Lenin and Stalin. Put a happy face on organized theft, defamilization, eugenics, Climate Change world domination tactics,etc. All the while screaming Democracy, doing it for the little guy. Yea, the little guy has to do it for him self. But we know their tactics, it's been tried, people have died, and it has failed.
The only problem I have with Big Business is it's cozy little bed fella called Government. To big to fall my ass. Mostly to big to sail, if you need to get a crutch from the pocket book of the people, you don't need to be a corporate entity.
Black Friday is the remnants of Roosevelt's Raw Deal, the Post Office needs to be Open as well as every other business in the country. Holiday's are Devaluing the idea of labor, the engine to a fruitful healthy life. Good healthy work ethics and you wouldn't see the zombies destroying his neighbor's property like in the video's above.
But Brian74, I don't buy the Anti-corporate Marxist jargon. That big corporate entity puts food in somebody's stomach. Never held a job, working for a poor man.
What you see is poor upbringing, which in most cases is perpetrated by a government that seeks to replace daddy. Or poor secular education, which espouses Entitlement Collectivism. These are dangerous experiments that the Progressives have been advocating for over a hundred years. Oh, they believe they can do it better than Lenin and Stalin. Put a happy face on organized theft, defamilization, eugenics, Climate Change world domination tactics,etc. All the while screaming Democracy, doing it for the little guy. Yea, the little guy has to do it for him self. But we know their tactics, it's been tried, people have died, and it has failed.
The only problem I have with Big Business is it's cozy little bed fella called Government. To big to fall my ass. Mostly to big to sail, if you need to get a crutch from the pocket book of the people, you don't need to be a corporate entity.
Black Friday is the remnants of Roosevelt's Raw Deal, the Post Office needs to be Open as well as every other business in the country. Holiday's are Devaluing the idea of labor, the engine to a fruitful healthy life. Good healthy work ethics and you wouldn't see the zombies destroying his neighbor's property like in the video's above.
@perdurabu: I'm a libertarian and believe in free-market economics. The giant corporate chains are not the product of, nor do they represent, free-market economics. They are the product of the collusion of government and corporations. I do not in any way support, or advocate collectivism, and/or centralized government control. I don't care whether it's right wing fascism or left wing communism...they're both the same to me. The bankers who are the primary owners of the giant corporations are not free market capitalists...they believe in command and control economies...left or right matters not to them...they control both, and they are ultimately the same oligarchic entities behind the education system and everything else you're talking about. IMO, you're sadly mistaken if you think they are somehow at odds with left wing collectivism...we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.
Brian I don't see where we disagree on much of anything, considering you restated my point. As far big business at odds with collectivism, some may be and some may not be. That's up to their business models and lobbyist. Competition, as you know,is what we(meaning me and You) would rather see, than the oligarchy that you mentioned.
As far as Right wing fascism? No such thing. Fascism is totalitarian.. We live in a black and white, night and day, right hand and left hand world. Individuals will always fall on a side. Now define sides. Right wing is no government. Left wing is complete Dictatorship/Government totalitarian. Don't agree with that, OK. You'd be doing a disservice to your stance. But Ok. Moving on.
My only problem with your statement was attack on big business, that's all. I'm not that crass. What you were describing is pragmatic business acumen. They have no loyalty to a country and its economy, the Cartel called The Federal Reserve seems to come to mind. Anyway we agree there also. Keeping themselves propped up by government is the problem, meaning there is not a real competition going on. Certain Busniess have kept themselves from crash and burn, therefore Refusing to burn. At the end of the day it's all comes down to BIG Centralized Government. In our case in the US, abandoning founding principles.
As far as Right wing fascism? No such thing. Fascism is totalitarian.. We live in a black and white, night and day, right hand and left hand world. Individuals will always fall on a side. Now define sides. Right wing is no government. Left wing is complete Dictatorship/Government totalitarian. Don't agree with that, OK. You'd be doing a disservice to your stance. But Ok. Moving on.
My only problem with your statement was attack on big business, that's all. I'm not that crass. What you were describing is pragmatic business acumen. They have no loyalty to a country and its economy, the Cartel called The Federal Reserve seems to come to mind. Anyway we agree there also. Keeping themselves propped up by government is the problem, meaning there is not a real competition going on. Certain Busniess have kept themselves from crash and burn, therefore Refusing to burn. At the end of the day it's all comes down to BIG Centralized Government. In our case in the US, abandoning founding principles.
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