Pat, I just noticed I got asked a question, I was actually working as a jeweller at the time, but our company was sponsored by 830, the best roasters in town I think. When we got a fancy new espresso machine in a barista came in for a day and took each staff member through a tutorial on making a good coffee, after that they just turned up each week with a giant bag of beans...I got my tamp on.mortonbriar I have friends at Bell, Flight and Columbus Coffee. Where did you work?