The Good Old Days

[cosmicfolklore]

I’m old fashioned, keep your hands to yourself, Cop or no Cop,

+1, I have avoided posting in this thread, because I am pretty sure I wouldn't be able to prevent myself from getting dinged.

 

[OlJawBone]

but I believe the OP understands that.

literally nothing about his post implies it. He is literally just yearning for a day when he could slap women on the rump

 

[telescopes]

literally nothing about his post implies it. He is literally just yearning for a day when he could slap women on the rump

I was thinking about his second post. And with it the benefit of the doubt. I may have read more into it then there was. Perhaps my own filters were to focused.on what I perceive as a nagging problem for modern people and that is the expression of sexual identity versus the suppression of sexual identity- a dichotomy of confusion for modern western people.

 

[OlJawBone]

I was thinking about his second post. And with it the benefit of the doubt. I may have read more into it then there was. Perhaps my own filters were to focused.on what I perceive as a nagging problem for modern people and that is the expression of sexual identity versus the suppression of sexual identity- a dichotomy of confusion for modern western people.

I agree that sexuality is repressed and that its unhealthy, but not as unhealthy as a society where cops have leeway to slap asses

 

[telescopes]

I agree that sexuality is repressed and that its unhealthy, but not as unhealthy as a society where cops have leeway to slap asses

Agreed

 

[mso489]

Some grad student could write a sociology paper on mores and norms from this thread. We could all end up footnotes.

 

[kcghost]

I am totally afraid to comment one way or the other,

 

[5star]

A central question to ask IMO:

Would the view of this situation be different, if the guy involved was just average Joe Citizen dressed in jeans & a flannel shirt ?

Yes. Most definitely. In that case it would just be two people flirting (perhaps in a way considered inappropriate while in public.) A cop doing it potentially changes the dynamic.

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

Sorry my actions may have offended a few of the readers but the semi military authority mind set is exactly why there is a big gap between the public and police. To show you are human like everyone is not a bad thing. I worked with and for the public not just part of the Governor’s army. My door was always open to the men under my command and the public that provided information to stop the bad guys. Troopers worked with me not for me. Paper shufflers have insulated themselves from what the public needs. In 35 yrs on the job, no higher up supervision stopped at the stations only sent apointes to nit pick our operation. Do as I say only got momentary compliance and destroyed moral.

You’re sorry but proceeded to justify your actions. Which is it? Are there double standards for public and police? If so, please explain.

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

A central question to ask IMO:

Would the view of this situation be different, if the guy involved was just average Joe Citizen dressed in jeans & a flannel shirt ?

Yes. Most definitely. In that case it would just be two people flirting (perhaps in a way considered inappropriate while in public.) A cop doing it potentially changes the dynamic.

I don’t see the difference ethically, but a police officer has been given power that others have not been given.

What about school teachers, pastors, attorneys, marketing and sales professionals, managers, or most any other professional?

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

Some grad student could write a sociology paper on mores and norms from this thread. We could all end up footnotes.

You don’t need to be in grad school.

Who would want their mother, daughter, grandchildren, aunt, sister, mother in law, or any close acquaintances to be butt slapped ? Hard to believe anyone ever thought it was okay or worse explained the “good old days”…lol!!

 

[Kal]

Yeah, I miss them good old days of younger years. Nothing really to do with the debate.

 

[johnnyreb]

Yeah, I miss them good old days of younger years. Nothing really to do with the debate.

Me too.

"She said don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourself"

 

[Kal]

Me too.

"She said don't give me no lines and keep your hands to yourself"

Ditto.
I haven't heard that in a good ol' long time.

 

[virginialover]

Years ago when my chosen profession as a uniform state level cop working in a rural area of N.Y was fun. I frequently stoped for a break at a local diner. Upon entering the waitress would rush from behind the counter a give me a kiss on the cheek and I would reciprocate by patting her on the butt. All the other patrons would spill their coffee laughing. This was known as identity with the community not sexual harassment.

As you said, the good old days, nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately those days are gone and one has to deal with a lot of crazy and easily offended people, the reason I stay clear of them and socialize only with the friends and acquaintances I know and trust.

 

[5star]

I don’t see the difference ethically, but a police officer has been given power that others have not been given.

What about school teachers, pastors, attorneys, marketing and sales professionals, managers, or most any other professional?

Yes, police have been given the authority & power to potentially take your freedom (by arresting you & locking you up) and the even of potentially taking your life. This is a great responsibility that demands that the citizenry who grants it respect those who have been granted it as being fair & impartial. - Those other professionals you mentioned should also be held to high standards. But they don’t have the capacity to jail or kill you in the course of performing their duties.
Again, Ive never been a cop or in a supervisory position over cops, so don’t know how these issues were handled in tye past or today. I’m just a civilian citizen nowadays.

 

[Morrison Jeremiah]

Ok, I'll chuck my Tuppence worth in, now that I've had a rampantly luscious bowl of FVP and mulled things over.
The good old days are indeed gone, and the world is now ruled by a bunch of neurotic tarts in starched underwear.
Do they want equality ? No, but glorying in the newly found power of their knickers, they want to see every single male erased from the face of the planet.
Are we chaps collectively / historically responsible for their attitude ? They would say so. I'm not so sure. Maybe to some degree yes.
Hopefully it's just a passing fad and we can all get back to a reasonable status quo.

 

[5star]

There seems to be (at least) two independent threads of discussion here. One involves today’s p.c. environment generally & the other involves what’s appropriate public behavior for police on the job.

 

[virginialover]

Ok, I'll chuck my Tuppence worth in, now that I've had a rampantly luscious bowl of FVP and mulled things over.
The good old days are indeed gone, and the world is now ruled by a bunch of neurotic tarts in starched underwear.
Do they want equality ? No, but glorying in the newly found power of their knickers, they want to see every single male erased from the face of the planet.
Are we chaps collectively / historically responsible for their attitude ? They would say so. I'm not so sure. Maybe to some degree yes.
Hopefully it's just a passing fad and we can all get back to a reasonable status quo.

I would reply to you but it would give a political twist to this thread which is verboten.

 

[OlJawBone]

there is nothing political about not slapping women's asses who aren't your partners. just don't be a creepy asshole. unless you politics are defined by being a creepy asshole, which case you've got a whole other set of problems.

being groped by cops doesn't constitute the gold ol' days for most women.