I still do not understand this propensity to bring alcohol into a tobacco discussion. Two different arguments and and wedding them just confuses any argument any debate. One is socially acceptable and the other isn't.
I have a great pipe and cigar shop here in Minnesota called Jonathon Robert Fielding & Company. Great bulk selection and great service. We love to talk about tobacco politics lol. If I'm in a cigar mood I live a mile away from BURN which is one of the largest cigar lounges in Minnesota. Pretty cool.