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telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
Ok, I’m stumped.
‘splain me?
Legacy info? Meat?
Some folks here won’t buy it because of the Allister Crowley connection. The apostle Paul explained many times that meat was meat and incident matter who sold it. Tobacco is tobacco. It doesn’t matter the story behind it used for marketing purposes.
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,861
26,009
SE PA USA
Some folks here won’t buy it because of the Allister Crowley connection. The apostle Paul explained many times that meat was meat and incident matter who sold it. Tobacco is tobacco. It doesn’t matter the story behind it used for marketing purposes.
I’m still at a total loss, only more so.
Who is Allister Crowley and what was The Meat Incident? This sounds like a Downton Abbey episode.
 
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telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
I’m still at a total loss, only more so.
Who is Allister Crowley and what was The Meat Incident? This sounds like a Downton Abbey episode.
The link to Allister Crowley is above via @The Libertine - The meat incident goes back to the first century Christians. Many refused to eat meat offered to idols - the thinking that eating it polluted their bodies and made them sinful. The apostle Paul dismissed those concerns for the most part. A few posters prior to this discussion in another thread were reticent to smoke The Beast because Allister Crowley was a satanist and C&D should have known better than to try and associate him in the marketing of this tobacco - albeit, the whole thing is rum soaked perique which was a Crowley thing. My statement made earlier is that if early Christians could eat meat offered to idols, then we smokers should certainly be able to smoke a blend of tobacco based on and associated with Allister Crowley. It's not like we are worshipping Satan by offering up rum soaked Perique in our parlors. At least I don't think we are... No.... we definitely aren't.

Does this suffice - sorry for the confusion - it was dry humor apparently for an audience of one. LOL.
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,861
26,009
SE PA USA
The link to Allister Crowley is above via @The Libertine - The meat incident goes back to the first century Christians. Many refused to eat meat offered to idols - the thinking that eating it polluted their bodies and made them sinful. The apostle Paul dismissed those concerns for the most part. A few posters prior to this discussion in another thread were reticent to smoke The Beast because Allister Crowley was a satanist and C&D should have known better than to try and associate him in the marketing of this tobacco - albeit, the whole thing is rum soaked perique which was a Crowley thing. My statement made earlier is that if early Christians could eat meat offered to idols, then we smokers should certainly be able to smoke a blend of tobacco based on and associated with Allister Crowley. It's not like we are worshipping Satan by offering up rum soaked Perique in our parlors. At least I don't think we are... No.... we definitely aren't.

Does this suffice - sorry for the confusion - it was dry humor apparently for an audience of one. LOL.
Thank you for catering to the slower-minded smoker here. Much appreciated.
Now let me go order up a tin of The Beast and break out my old Bladensburg Peace Cross Necklace.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
Everything being said, it does seem that C&D's The Beast is a beast that becomes tamed over time. I found one aged tin to be sufficient for now. I have two more, plus one new one that is now aging. This will take me out 10 years. I note that near the end of the tin, I had begun to tire of the taste. This tobacco, in my thinking, is not a go to tobacco but reacher a curiosity that one can return to from time to time. It is a blend certainly deserving of being on one's shelf if having a few curious tins of tobacco is something one fancies for their shelf. Crowley was a noob. The tobacco we now have is not.
 

wiijj

Lurker
Mar 30, 2025
7
9
Everything being said, it does seem that C&D's The Beast is a beast that becomes tamed over time. I found one aged tin to be sufficient for now. I have two more, plus one new one that is now aging. This will take me out 10 years. I note that near the end of the tin, I had begun to tire of the taste. This tobacco, in my thinking, is not a go to tobacco but reacher a curiosity that one can return to from time to time. It is a blend certainly deserving of being on one's shelf if having a few curious tins of tobacco is something one fancies for their shelf. Crowley was a noob. The tobacco we now have is not.
definitely agree with this, i was more impressed with the tin note than with the actual taste. hoping it will come into its own with age like you say.
 

Indygrap

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 18, 2022
271
628
New Orleans, LA
I noticed that the tin note on this release was less barnyard/manure than the ‘23. It seems a little more balanced & not as moist as well. I wish I’d gotten more of the ‘23 to do a side-by-side comparison. ‘25 is not bad out of the tin, & neither was the ‘23, but I recall it really coming into its own about 6-8 months in the jar.
 

peteyhan

Might Stick Around
Apr 18, 2025
58
92
Long Island, New York
Bought two tins of the most recent release when it dropped. 51% Perique sounded intriguing and I wasn't disappointed. It's spring so that means mulch on Long Island. This reminded me of that. The tin is strong, like applewood mulch, tangy almost. Color very dark. The smoke is heavy peat, rum is present but extremely light. Full bodied and what I can tell, high nicotine for those who track content. Jarred one cellared the other.
 

BenMN

Lifer
Jun 21, 2023
2,968
49,646
St. Paul, MN
I noticed that the tin note on this release was less barnyard/manure than the ‘23. It seems a little more balanced & not as moist as well. I wish I’d gotten more of the ‘23 to do a side-by-side comparison. ‘25 is not bad out of the tin, & neither was the ‘23, but I recall it really coming into its own about 6-8 months in the jar.
I noticed this things too, when comparing my '23 to a tin of '25 at pipe club

As I come to the bottom of this tin of '23 (still have a couple more cellared) I find myself wishing I grabbed a few of the '25. Ah well