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alaskanpiper

Enabler in Chief
May 23, 2019
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God I can't wait to retire. I'll be at my cabin, where the only news source is mother nature. She ALWAYS tells the truth, whether you like it or not.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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18,330
Zerohedge is a batshit crazy fake news blog run by a couple of Austrian morons who write the entire thing from their mother's basement. Note the names they give their writers... This one was done by Tyler Durden. You may recognize that name as the crazy assed character from Fight Club.
This is what is telling you that the real news is fake news? WTF
Sure, agree to disagree, but if you think that this is news, then I'd have to totally disagree to the Nth. Two kid bloggers making a website that looks like news and reports that everything is a conspiracy is the epitome of fake news.
Now that I have a little more time, I thought perhaps I'd give a more serious response.
Yes, "Tyler Durden" is a pseudonym.
BFD.
Personally, I don't care who that person(s) actually is...most of the material on that site is not written by TD...it's stuff that they post from all kinds of different sites/sources.
The article I referenced is filled with links and references. As dmcmtk said, the reader can make up their own mind...which is how it should be.
And my perspective on this particular story, just as with any other story, is not based on just one source.
I honestly couldn't care less what you or anyone else thinks of zerohedge. I'm not emotionally or psychologically invested in it. But your characterization of that site and its typical content is utterly absurd. It's primarily an "aggregator" site...the articles posted there typically come from many varying, independent sources...which are always linked.
You're of course entitled to your opinion, and I welcome any extended, rambling discussion on here. But if your statements truly reflect your view of what is generally on that site, then...well...I can only conclude that either you're actually very unfamiliar with most of what is normally posted there, or else your world view normally excludes from consideration a whole hell of a lot of credible sources and information.
Whatever.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,700
18,330
LOL
Yes, it's finally been revealed. I am actually, in real life, Tyler Durden:
An imaginary projection of an unfortunate individual who suffered a psychotic break after years of immersion in the corporate culture and a lifestyle of shameless, ravenous consumerism.
And while I now run amok, my hapless progenitor can do nothing but smoke a pipe and vegetate. I've given up on him.

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
23,068
58,989
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jrs457.wixsite.com
Putting aside the political blather, the technology to create believably faked images has been around for a long time. I can put together a composite image that would fool 99.999999 percent of the viewers. I made a living at doing just that for many years. On my last live action film I was sitting in dailies when the director stood up, pointing at the screen and screaming about the "shitty" matte painting that was screwing up the shot and which should have matched the set. The problem was that the "stitty" matte painting he was pointing at WAS the set, and the set he was pointing at was my matte painting. I did enjoy correcting him in front of the rest of the crew.
What is different now is that information gathering has reached a point where reasonably believable simulacrums can be created to convincingly mimic a live human being on video. Most people uncritically accept what they see and hear, and are easily manipulated, especially those who consider themselves too smart to be fooled. The number of people who can see past the smoke and mirrors is astonishingly small.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,700
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The problem was that the "stitty" matte painting he was pointing at WAS the set, and the set he was pointing at was my matte painting. I did enjoy correcting him in front of the rest of the crew.
That's hilarious. I would like to have seen his reaction.
What is different now is that information gathering has reached a point where reasonably believable simulacrums can be created to convincingly mimic a live human being on video. Most people uncritically accept what they see and hear, and are easily manipulated, especially those who consider themselves too smart to be fooled. The number of people who can see past the smoke and mirrors is astonishingly small.
Exactly...and spot on with the whole point of the OP.
But to see past the smoke and mirrors, you have to at least first consider the possibility...and for most people, if it's presented to them in an authoritative manner, that possibility will probably never occur to them.
It's the age of Infotainment.

 

Olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
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15,353
The Arm of Orion
The problem is further compounded by the zombies who expect every single topic to be explained in 30 seconds because that's either the longest duration of their attention span or because they're "too busy" to listen to "long-winded explanations". Even with ultra-simplification, important concepts and issues just cannot be properly explained in minutes, let alone seconds.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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Good point Olkofri...which is what the original article in the OP was addressing also.
Those zombies are the product of the digital age. It went from the desktop to the phones in their hands...and the next big transition will be when it goes into their brains.
They'll be eagerly lining up to receive their Neuralinks. Just imagine where this all leads when everyone starts being implanted with these brain-computer interfaces.
“Ultimately” he wants “to achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence.” And that even in a “benign scenario,” humans would be “left behind.” Hence, he wants to create technology that allows a “merging with AI.”
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/16/20697123/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-reading-thread-robot

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
23,068
58,989
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
That's hilarious. I would like to have seen his reaction.
It was hilarious, except to the production designer. The director stood there like the proverbial deer in the headlights, not saying anything, then returned silently to his seat. The production designer was staring daggers at him.
But to see past the smoke and mirrors, you have to at least first consider the possibility...and for most people, if it's presented to them in an authoritative manner, that possibility will probably never occur to them.
Having spent the better part of 40 years in the belly of the beast, the "possibility" is always present to me.

 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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The sentence that jumped out at me in the OP blog post was,
"At this point, it’s really not that hard to imagine masses of human beings getting lost in a false reality that’s being billed as a techno-utopia."
The blog posters, deep thinkers that they obviously are (sarc), didn't think to consider, or at leat write it in the post, that it could become a techno-dystopia.
At least at the bottom right of the page they disclose,
"TSM is also a participant in the Amazon Services Associates Program, an affiliate program designed to provide a means for sites to earn a small referral fee by linking to products on Amazon.com."

 
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