Straight Grain: Better Heat Transfer/Conduction

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It's difficult to compare briar to pine because of the differences of density and silica content. But I would say yes, straight grains are proven scientifically superior (just because it will make peoples head explode lol)
Except on the heel if you have too many fibers connecting the bowl and outside surface.
Ironically, the heel is often the thinnest part of the bowl and Straight Grain makes that point the most susceptible to heat transfer.
 
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see the thing is you'd have to make a bunch of pipes that are all the same in nearly everyway that have different grains to test this. Which you know is one of the funny things about science. There isn't really a reason to sink time and material and all that into figuring this out. Too much for for knowing if this is just what people think or if it is what is really happening. The thing is obviously the internal structure of something would effect it's thermal properties. Like how you pack a pipe for example. Now if it effects it like we think that's where it gets confusing.

I actually looked it up and found this regarding heat transfer in wood.

In the direction of the grain, the thermal conductivity of wood is about twice what it is perpendicular to the grain.

So it is just the opposite of what was originally speculated. And it may actually be the same. Huh? Because the rate of heat transfer is slower across the grain, the actual surface may feel warmer as the slower heat transfer rate means the wood will actually hold more heat. I'd still wager the difference is so small it would be difficult to discern the difference by touching. But at least there is some science that can be applied.
 
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Has anyone ever used one of those thermal imaging things on a pipe? It seems like it would be interesting to play with. Hell, they are like $2000+

If I had one of those I'd create a seal around the rim of the bowl and blow hot air through the pipe with a heat gun, which should uniformly heat the interior of the pipe, then see where the thermal energy pops up most.
A static heating element inside the bowl could work but you'd have to be precise about keeping it centered and inserted at the correct depth.
Of course most people would just want to look at it while smoking the pipe but that will only tell you how your pipe heats up while you're smoking it, not the actual material properties of the bowl.
 

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Actually, I just want to see a few different pipes types being smoked through a thermal imaging device. We can post the video of it everytime someone like F4RM3R here has a notion to bring attention to his precious "straight grain" pipes. puffy JK... science, yeh.... it's science.
and I'am sure there are legit reasons to find such a test inconclusive really.
 
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anotherbob

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I actually looked it up and found this regarding heat transfer in wood.



So it is just the opposite of what was originally speculated. And it may actually be the same. Huh? Because the rate of heat transfer is slower across the grain, the actual surface may feel warmer as the slower heat transfer rate means the wood will actually hold more heat. I'd still wager the difference is so small it would be difficult to discern the difference by touching. But at least there is some science that can be applied.
or significant enough that if other factors or a certain way it can make a real difference but only if other factors let it add up to a noticeable difference.
 

jpberg

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As an aside, I haven’t seen Straight grain/thermal transfer and cake discussion at the same time in quite a while. We’re either coming full circle, regressing, or having flashbacks.
 
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peregrinus

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Has anyone ever used one of those thermal imaging things on a pipe? It seems like it would be interesting to play with. Hell, they are like $2000+
This IS a perennial topic.
Way, waaay back, in the alt.smokers.pipes (ASP) days of the infernal net, Trever Talbert conducted and posted the results of a series of informal tests using an infer-red heat sensor.
Unfortunately, that portion of my organic hard drive has been overwritten a number of times so I don’t remember the results.
Could be retrievable if someone wanted to dig through the old ASP Usenet site.
 
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If I had one of those I'd create a seal around the rim of the bowl and blow hot air through the pipe with a heat gun, which should uniformly heat the interior of the pipe, then see where the thermal energy pops up most.
If I had one, I would just use it to know when my neighbor's heat signature inside their house having sex. Then I would knock on their door and ask some inane question, over and over. Then they'd start to wonder how I always knew when they were "doin' it." I'm easily amused. puffy
 

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Has anyone ever used one of those thermal imaging things on a pipe? It seems like it would be interesting to play with. Hell, they are like $2000+
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