Still experiencing that weird feeling

[cosmicfolklore]

Shutterbug, just keep posting your take on dryness when someone asks about bite or burn. I don't think you are wrong for smoking tobacco straight out of the can. We just have different opinions. Mine is founded on what I've learned works for me. It might not work for someone else. There are lots of variables in pipe smoking, and it's true that maybe someone is just packing wrong, or puffing too hard. There are lots of ways to circumvent the equation.
As for codger blends. Unless we are buying for these companies, we don't know if cheap is a factor. But, there are lots of different types of Burley, some high nic. Some low nic. Burley Light With no Bite by Sutliff (?) and even Solanies Aged Burley Flakes don't have any nicotine as far as I'm concerned. There are actually lots of Burley blends that just don't do it for me when it comes to nicotine.

 

[woodsroad]

There's no way tobacco taste would ever penetrate the veil of topping on such blends as Mixture 79, so why would a corporate manufacturer buy premium tobacco at the tobacco auction only to drown it in noxious topping?

I have smoked the Mahogany Burley used in Captain Black. It is stellar stuff. So good, in fact, that we use it in some of our Standard Tobacco blends.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Fact is the tobacco is probably fine moisture-wise; most likely he's packing it too tight and puffing too hard.

You have no way of ascertaining that. And since you smoke wet tobacco, and can't finish a bowl because it's "nasty", etc., your opinion that tobacco is always fine to smoke on opening the tin (as per your statements re Dunhill, perhaps others) is just straight up wrong. It leads me to note you have much shakier ground to stand on when talking about advising newcomers.

 

[mawnansmiff]

I think that anyone truly determind to make a success of pipesmoking will pretty soon realise that the majority of blends need some air time afore they can be enjoyed properly.
Some need far more air time than others...SG and G&H made blends are well known culprits in the 'wet tobacco' camp whereas some Dunghill blends can be enjoyed right out of the tin though even with those, an improvement can be had from a little air time.
Just my tuppence worth folks ::
Regards,
Jay.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Jep, I'm coming to conclusion some 10-20 min airing prior to smoke + packing on the lighter side, makes most tobacco

easier to enjoy

 

[seagullplayer]

I think people tend to post what works most of the time.

And most of the time allowing the tobacco to dry out a bit works.

Its also easy advise to give and easy to follow.
The net is a funny place, it can be hard to figure out who is offering you help and who is just blowing their own horn. But its a steep leaning curve, most catch on pretty fast...

 

[shutterbugg]

You have no way of ascertaining that. And since you smoke wet tobacco, and can't finish a bowl because it's "nasty", etc., your opinion that tobacco is always fine to smoke on opening the tin (as per your statements re Dunhill, perhaps others) is just straight up wrong. It leads me to note you have much shakier ground to stand on when talking about advising newcomers.

Perhaps you have a reading comprehension disability, in which case I definitely don't intend to ridicule you.
I don't smoke wet tobacco, I smoke tobacco in a moisture range where it stays lit and tastes best to me. If a blend profits from being drier than shipped, and the taste merits the effort, I dry it. If the taste doesn't merit the effort, and/or I can find a similar-tasting blend that is shipped such that I can enjoy it out of the tin, I'll buy that one instead. All of Dunhill's blends smoke fine for me out of the tin. So does 4th Generation 1931 Flake. The couple SG flakes I enjoy (Firedance and Kendal Mayor's Chocolate) really need a lot of drying to stay lit, but they change taste profile when dried, so it's something of a compromise. Amphora could use a bit of drying (oweing to the PG) but it too changes taste profile.
I can finish a bowl, the blends I smoke don't taste nasty in the bottom third (some blends do, and I'm not the only one who finds this), but all tobacco collects tars and such in the bottom dregs and I prefer not to smoke it.
What I object to is the insistence upon a particular dogma for which failing to follow is punishable by ridicule and ostracism from the boys club of pipesmoking as "a hobby". Such as assertions that all blends need to be dried perfunctorily, or that one must aspire to smoke the bottom dregs.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

What I object to is the insistence upon a particular dogma for which failing to follow is punishable by ridicule and ostracism from the boys club of pipesmoking as "a hobby". Such as assertions that all blends need to be dried perfunctorily, or that one must aspire to smoke the bottom dregs.

Just as you were misunderstood, I think you are doing the same. No organization "hobby" is calling you out for dissenting to drying your tobacco. I aspire to smoke all of the tobacco, but I have never seen this given as a must, except by some newbies asking "how" to smoke to the bottom, which of course got the reply, that he needed to dry more, ha ha.
This is easy, you don't want to dry your tobacco, don't. If you think that the answer to someone's post should not be to dry the tobacco, post as much. Turning an overall and all-encompassing phrase, such as "everyone" and "ostracism" is not accurate. I think you'll find some forum favorites such as jiminks as being in agreeance with you on drying. He has posted as much. So, you are in good "hobby" company. ::
But, lets see if we can defend our opinions without putting down your fellow forum members. It just adds a touch of class to the post.

 

[instymp]

If smoking is a hobby, then is drinking adult beverages a hobby, like eating gourmet food?

I usually dry mine out more than others, not crispy though. Dunhill good out of the can.

"Virginias can be difficult. They create an acidity on contact with (some) tongues. Drinking beer while smoking helps. "

Hope Vodka & Manhattans help also.

Been smoking lots of pipe fulls of Virginias for the past couple of weeks a day & a bit of tongue discomfort, maybe acid doing me bad, good to know.

paulie66scandina.. buying some biotene, thanks. Hope you solve your issue!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I think drinking can be a hobby as well. I don't drink alcohol, but there are some who enjoy tasting wines (or spirits) and collecting aged varieties. They may or may not drink for affect or drunkenness. Sure, some do, and they could care less for aged or premium spirits...

I just don't have the taste for wines or alcohols. I've tried to drink. It's just not something I'm interested in.

 

[instymp]

Maybe tasting or enjoying something is not a hobby but sharing with others other experiences & pros & cons.

OR, you can make it into a hobby, like photography.

 

[shutterbugg]

Idk, but it just sounds assinine calling smoking or drinking "a hobby", regardless of what kind or how much. To me it sounds like marketing spin. Part of what makes me feel that way, I think, is that things like photography, stamp and coin collecting, building ships in bottles etc etc were always called hobbies, but smoking and drinking not until very recently. No not even wine. There were always connosieurs, but even they didn't refer to wine drinking as "a hobby". Wine tasting, wine collecting, yes. Drinking, no. Semantics :D
Honestly Idgaf about that ^. However, I can respond with authority on one thing: drinking alcohol while smoking increases the risk of oral disease...periodontal disease, and even oral carcinoma. Check with your dentist or physician, google (being cautious as to the source!) it, but be aware of it.

 

[seagullplayer]

I think calling it a "hobby" is an easy explanation for why you have 50 pipes more than you need.

And why you have half a ton of pipe tobacco you couldn't possibly finish in your life time.
Besides it sounds better than obsession.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Dear Mister,Shutterbugg,Lately I'm coming to conclusion that Amphoras as well as CH do contain pretty amount of PG, and because of this I'm forced' to give them some drying prior to smoke,yes obviously these baccys' may have some benefit from this procedure,nevertheless drying these also tend to bring along some additional harsh(not much but some) notes to overall smoking experience of these famous blends.

 

[mawnansmiff]

"drinking alcohol while smoking increases the risk of oral disease."
Well I never knew that SB, learn something new on this forum every day ::
As for pipesmoking being a 'hobby', absolute hogwash. Pipe collecting yes but smoking most certainly not.
Regards,
Jay.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

People get garments in wads on here about the most insignificant stuff. I remember someone got in a tizzy because I had said I was addicted to tobacco. Everyone was all, "it's a hobby, you can't get addicted." Now, someone is all "calling it a hobby is asinine." Honestly, come on, if what I call smoking a pipe all day long is going to be the worst thing someone faces in a day, I'd say you're doing pretty good. Ha ha, so for now, I could give less than a bear's fart what someone thinks about what I call this magnanimously royal hobby of hobbies. ::

 

[jackswilling]

Merriam-Webster says
hobby

noun hob·by

Definition of hobby

plural hobbies

: a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation

hobbyist play -bē-ist noun
It seems based on the definition it is axiomatic. Call it what you will, but in the end the definition is definitive. Hobbies can be addictive.

 

[seagullplayer]

": a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation"
I have to show this to the wife. It appears that what I really have "on my mind all the time"

is just one of our hobbies... :D

 

[jpmcwjr]

Heh. There are some for whom that is a solo "hobby".
Uh, how did the little lady react??

 

[cosmicfolklore]

That could be more of a sport than a hobby, ha ha.