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Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Thanks for that! Don't know how I missed that one, I do enjoy the older pipes, and learning more about them.

 

armonts

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 3, 2018
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France
old Ropp machines, school visit. :
https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjErZvBguzbAhVJ8RQKHaGdCu4QwqsBCCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fvideo%2Fx3ki8t9&usg=AOvVaw3QADDvWbCJ0Ny9OrpcSLP1

 

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Apr 22, 2018
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My first post here other than the introduction, bear with me!
I found the Ropp factory/post industrial museum videos interesting and also very sad, difficult to see the setting of abandoned old fashioned overhead belt driven machinery, filing systems and half finished products without thinking of the people who once worked in the business and their hopes and aspirations.
St. Claude manufactured pipes, I've never had a bad one yet in half a century of pipe smoking and I'm still smoking them to this day with a quarter bent Rhodesian as my favoured driving pipe, one full bowl of Erinmore Flake equates to approximately seventy kilometres of motorway/highway/freeway uninterrupted driving at a more or less constant speed of one hundred kilometres an hour which is highest permissible road vehicle speed where I now live.

Cheap and I think very well made for the price and usually bearing the 'Bryure Guarantee' stamp the St. Claude made pipes at one time dominated the British basket pipe trade when the likes of Comoy's GBD and most definitely Dunhill were way beyond the price many pipe smokers were willing or indeed able to afford. The increased earning power of the 1960's British industrial worker saw an end to the dominance of the St. Claude made basket pipe as smokers turned their attention and importantly their cash to the likes of Parker Peterson Hardcastle and Falcon with the relatively expensive Falcon short model 'Bantam' being much favoured by those working in the engineering industry's, seemingly indestructible the Bantam rang all the right bells for a knock about industry and the egalitarian image of a Falcon being smoked not only by the worker but also by the Boss added to its popularity.
Of St. Claude made pipes and French pipes in general. The French make good pipes and in my opinion some of the best medium priced factory made pipes in the world come from France but what they haven't done is build a myth around their products, Peterson and Dunhill being the finest exponents of product myth. Both Peterson and Dunhill make fine pipes and they're not afraid to say so, Dunhill in an understated English sort of way and Peterson in an exuberant Irish way plus they back up the pipe myth with all sorts of goodies that persuade the pipe smoker to spend money on things that'll probably not improve a smoke by one jot but do look rather nice on the coffee table. The French

 

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Lurker
Apr 22, 2018
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To continue.

The French say just about enough to make a sale and sometimes not even that. I recently purchased two pipes from the Chacom Royale range, that I purchased the pipes through two excellent Italian on line shops should say enough. Both pipes are excellent in engineering grain and finish more importantly they smoke very well indeed but I could find very little about them from French web sites and the only pipe that I did find from the range for sale in France was €70 more expensive than those sold in Italy. The Italians had managed to piece together a little of the Royale range story, imagine now what Peterson would have made of stummels cut in the 1890's first machined in the 1950's and then forgotten about in a warehouse until fairly recently. Peterson would have told the pipe smoker the 'Holy Grail' story in terms of world or national events adding a personality or two to put the story into context with details of when the stummels were first cut and later machined how they were rediscovered and made ready for sale. All interesting stuff for the prospective buyer to dwell on and retaining their interest so that they don't move on to a different manufacturer.

 

sparrowhawk

Lifer
Jul 24, 2013
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The St. Claude smokes like a dream, so much so that I ordered another big billiard and a smaller sandblasted billiard. I get different stories on the origins of these pipes, but the quality could easily match a Dunhill.

 
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