so the FDA wants to reduce the nicotine content in pipe tobacco?

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hunterspipes

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Dec 19, 2024
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Just read an article that they’re doing this for cigarettes, cigars, and pipe tobacco. do you think this rule will pass?
 

hunterspipes

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Dec 19, 2024
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Would love to see the article..link or source?
I am thinking that kind of activity for the FDA is going to be sidelined for a while as some major housecleaning may begin in a couple days...
 

Deano

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Ever wonder why the FDA and not the ATF was sicked on tobacco by a former leader of the free world? I do.
 

anotherbob

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proposes doesn't mean much. One thing it means is they're testing the waters. So why not send them polite (more flies with honey then vinegar) letter explaining that functionally reduce nicotine levels won't make anything safer or less addictive. But will expose tobacco users to higher percentages of tars, smoke particles, and nitrosamines when they have to use more to enjoy the benefits of nicotine. If the aim is to reduce new tobacco users then it actually increases the chances of that person having a pleasant experience making it easier for them to habituate themselves to nicotine. (how many people don't use tobacco because the nicotine made them sick?).
 

Scottmi

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Oct 15, 2022
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"The proposed rule would not ban cigarettes or any other tobacco products. The FDA is proposing to cap the nicotine level at 0.7 milligrams per gram of tobacco in cigarettes and certain other combusted tobacco products, which is significantly lower than the average concentration in these products on the market today. The FDA’s proposal would apply to cigarettes, cigarette tobacco, roll-your-own tobacco, most cigars (including little cigars, cigarillos, and most large cigars), and pipe tobacco."

Which raises the question (i'm sure answered many times previously): What is the typical (range) nicotine level per milligram in premium/tinned pipe tobacco blends?

Answer: "The nicotine content in premium pipe tobacco blends can vary significantly depending on the type of tobacco and blend. On average, pipe tobacco contains about 30 to 50 milligrams of nicotine per gram. Since a typical pipe bowl holds 1 to 3 grams of tobacco, this translates to an average of 30 to 150 milligrams of nicotine per bowl.
However, not all of this nicotine is absorbed by the body. Unlike cigarette smoking, where nicotine is inhaled into the lungs for rapid absorption, pipe smokers generally do not inhale deeply. Instead, nicotine is absorbed more slowly through the lining of the mouth. This results in a lower amount of nicotine entering the bloodstream compared to cigarettes, even though the total nicotine content in pipe tobacco may be higher...
In summary, premium pipe tobacco blends typically contain significant amounts of nicotine, ranging from moderate to very high levels depending on the blend. However, due to differences in smoking technique, the actual nicotine absorbed by pipe smokers is generally less than that absorbed by cigarette smokers." (supplied by Perplexity)
 

MisterBadger

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proposes doesn't mean much. One thing it means is they're testing the waters. So why not send them polite (more flies with honey then vinegar) letter explaining that functionally reduce nicotine levels won't make anything safer or less addictive. But will expose tobacco users to higher percentages of tars, smoke particles, and nitrosamines when they have to use more to enjoy the benefits of nicotine. If the aim is to reduce new tobacco users then it actually increases the chances of that person having a pleasant experience making it easier for them to habituate themselves to nicotine. (how many people don't use tobacco because the nicotine made them sick?).

You beat me to it. First thing that crossed my mind when reading the OP.
 
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anotherbob

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You beat me to it. First thing that crossed my mind when reading the OP.
I got extra practice with reading the state of proposals of this sort. The place I work has the middle to upper management go to meetings quarterly. In those meetings they have to float some idea for brain storming. Half the time the stuff they propose is just some half baked stuff that ends up becoming a strong rumor. Since the first month I've worked there people have told me how we're going to be replaced in a month because of something some idiot said in one of these meetings.
Also have experience with the FDA and these statements before. Including the time they were going to ban cheese except kraft singles (not kidding, people thought it was going to happen).