Snüs or pipe healthier?

[nathaniel]

What's your opinion?

When i have some general mint white, i go every waking minute with a pouch in my lip. I'll go like that for months at a time until i run out, as i can't get it in my country. And while i snüs a hardly ever smoke a pipe.

When im out of snüs though, my love for the pipe rekindles and i smoke 2-5 bowls a day.


Considering the FDA's (probably worthless) new classification for snüs being the FIRST tobacco alternative admitted "healthier" than smoking cigarettes,what do you think?

Obviously your unprofessional opinions are scientifically and medically worthless, but what else are we gonna talk about it if not these silly hypotheticals?

 

[fireground_piper]

I’m sure it has less severe risk by nature, but I’d have to believe it’s going to bring some issues with it.

Kind of like any form of smoke constantly being inhaled isn’t going to be good for you, putting any substance day after day, week after week in a spot of your mouth is probably likely to cause some form of reaction eventually. Even if it’s some type of inert material, there’s bound to be some eventual wear and tear you’ll need to deal with eventually.

 

[warren]

I really believe that is totally dependent on one's genes. Totally!

That and any other determinates from your lifestyle. It's all in how you challenge your immune system and what it can handle.

 

[bullet08]

Neither of 'em are healthy. You can quit now, or go happy.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I throw caring to the wind and often chew and smoke at the same time.

 

[Coreios]

I would think it's gonna be a lot worse on your teeth and gums. As far as Cancer goes I'm with Warren. You either have the Cancer gene or you don't. It can be triggered and activate by either, or none. There for I don't care. I smoke cigarettes, cigars, and my pipe. Sew a smile on my face if it's an open coffin funeral.

 

[RookieGuy80]

I have to believe this is a Ford Chevy question. Most healthy is neither of them. So we admit, even if we don't use these words, it's not about health but balancing enjoyment with risk. At that point, go with the one(s) that make(s) you happy. If it's a bowl a month to think of your grandfather, excellent! If you throw half a tin of Skoal or snus in your lip, burn through 3 cigarettes, and wash it down with a big pipe full of Five Bros, have at it! We've already said it's not about health but balancing enjoyment.

 

[seaweed]

I’m of the opinion that snus is likely healthier, though the ease of use probably contributes to higher blood pressure which can be problematic. You get a lot more nic from an all day snus habit, but from what I’ve read the pasteurization neutralizes some of the nastier compounds in tobacco. I am an idiot though.

 

[huckleberry]

If I couldn't decide what I liked better and didn't want to do it all....

Throw caution to the wind, and flip a coin.

The way I look at it, is I'm gonna die sooner or later anyway, and I'm 69 now...I do what I enjoy as I feel I've already beat the odds...

The decision is totally up to you and anything anyone else has to say about it should be a moot point.

If you want an educated opinion...ask your Doctor, or another Health professional.

Good on ya regardless of what you decide!

 

[andrew]

Snus definitely.

 

[captpat]

If it's a bowl a month to think of your grandfather, excellent! If you throw half a tin of Skoal or snus in your lip, burn through 3 cigarettes, and wash it down with a big pipe full of Five Bros, have at it! We've already said it's not about health but balancing enjoyment.

On my first ship, I recall a guy who routinely stood watch in the engine room lower level. He would start the watch with a Camel unfiltered cigarette, a cheek full of Copenhagen, and a quart-sized mug of engine room coffee (stuff that had been in the pot boiling down for several hours) to which he added two tablespoons of instant coffee. He would repeat this several times in a six-hour watch. AFAIK he's still around alive and kicking.

I don't have enough data to decide on the risk of snus vs. pipe smoking. The less risky approach is to do neither.

 

[Ben.R.C]

I enjoy general snus but it stained my teeth so bad I had to stop.

 

[anotherbob]

snus for sure. If nothing else burning something creates smoke particles and carcinogenic compounds. Though pipes require a lot of smoking for there to be noticeable damage, a lot as in you almost have to sleep with a pipe and only take it out of your mouth to eat. Snus is also why tobacco related disease is weirdly spread in Sweden. It's the only country in the world where health issues with tobacco are mainly a woman's problem. Woman smoke cigs where as men are more likely to snus. And despite having tobacco use comparable to the rest of Europe they have a level of tobacco related illness and such comparable to places where people don't really use that much tobacco.
Side note my doctor once told me that a pipe might make me sick might hurt me but cigarettes would. And it was a kind of shrug it could happen as far as the pipe went.
Oh and by the way that's a rabbit hole I've gone deep enough into, including convincing doctors and health officials to check out the studies and the statistics.
Almost forgot some of the best studies for getting doctors to pay attention to snus where the ones done by the Swedish Government. Especially including the part of the intention was to get facts to get people to stop using snus, before discovering that the facts indicated that wasn't really the best idea.
Finally health is complicated and in a lot of ways pipes can be considered medicinal and there is an argument for the benefits to health and over all well being out weighing significantly the potential harms. For example the fact that it can calm you down realistically might be better for your system then any harm. Oh and seems like the worst thing with pipes is your own second hand smoke.

 

[Ben.R.C]

I’m slackin’ on my smoke postin’ CRFP23 in an S Bang

 

[PaulRVA]

Pipe is healthier IMHO.
then……………..
Zyn, On, etc
Snuff
Snus
Cigarettes
Heroin

 

[Briar Lee]

What's your opinion?

When i have some general mint white, i go every waking minute with a pouch in my lip. I'll go like that for months at a time until i run out, as i can't get it in my country. And while i snüs a hardly ever smoke a pipe.

When im out of snüs though, my love for the pipe rekindles and i smoke 2-5 bowls a day.


Considering the FDA's (probably worthless) new classification for snüs being the FIRST tobacco alternative admitted "healthier" than smoking cigarettes,what do you think?

Obviously your unprofessional opinions are scientifically and medically worthless, but what else are we gonna talk about it if not these silly hypotheticals?

Of course snus is less harmful.

No chance of inhaling smoke that’s not there.

Nictotine isn’t danger free.

Harmful effects of nicotine

With the advent of nicotine replacement therapy, the consumption of the nicotine is on the rise. Nicotine is considered to be a safer alternative of tobacco. The IARC monograph has not included nicotine as a carcinogen. However there are various studies ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The real culprit is the modern, inhalable, quick, convenient cigarette.

People used tobacco for centuries and only after forty or more years of millions of people inhaling cigarettes did the medical community decide there was a problem.

 

[Ben.R.C]

Patch is probably the safest way to get nicotene becuase it’s self regulating as long as you don’t chew or smoke the patches.

 

[Ben.R.C]

I’m slackin’ on my smoke postin’ CRFP23 in an S Bang
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[autumnfog]

I believe snus is healthier. No smoke, no combustion.

 

[MartyA]

I'm a retired dentist, so I spent 42 years looking for pathological changes in people's mouths. I didn't see many pipe smokers, simply because there weren't many, but with pipe smoke, one sips it into their mouth and blows it out. With the guys who'd carry a chaw of tobacco in their lip, I could tell exactly where they kept it. I knew that no one would quit because their dentist told them it was bad for them, but I'd hand them a mirror, and say "you'd better find a new place to put your chew... look what's happening." Most of them appeared rather shocked, and I think a number of them quit.
Of course, inhaled smoke, like cigarettes, causes lung cancer. A pipe isn't good for you, but in my opinion, it's the least dangerous use of tobacco.