"Smoking Can Cause a Slow and Painful Death"

[rondyr]

"Smoking can cause a slow and painful death"?
Well, shit... guess I better quit smoking now! :rofl:
You know what else kills slowly and painfully? LIFE. Bwahahahahahaha.

 

[piperl12]

"So can trying to take pipe tobacco away from a great big, easily annoyed old guy like me."

@Mike Phillips this brings an image to mind of a guy trying to take a honey hive from a grizzly! :rofl:

 

[peckinpahhombre]

I would recommend a new statement on all pipe tobacco: "Life is Nasty, Brutal and Short. So Why Not Enjoy a Fine Tobacco?"

 

[piperl12]

So does marriage but that didn't stop me from doing that either! :rofl:

 

[sebastian]

Its the same with seatbelt laws, motorcycle helmet laws, smoking laws, etc. etc...
No one ever said: Give me SAFETY or give me death. It was LIBERTY, and all are slowly being taken away in the name of health and safety.

 

[foggymountain]

All I can say it that such a notice is very rude. We all know that smoking isn't good for you and have chosen to do it anyway. Why rub our noses in it every time we want a smoke? As far as the degree of danger, it is, in my experience, not as dangerous as football, marriage, hockey, motorcycles, baseball, parachuting or war, and we do those things. How about a notice on the back of every football Helmet FOOTBALL MAY CAUSE YOUR PAINFUL DEATH?

 

[numbersix]

No one ever said: Give me SAFETY or give me death. It was LIBERTY, and all are slowly being taken away in the name of health and safety.

+1
Well put.

 

[phred]

It's a pendulum swing, and a reaction to the underplaying of smoking risks for decades by cigarette companies. We have the advantage, these days, of knowing more about those risks (even if we as a species aren't particularly good at calculating risk accurately). Speaking personally, I've seen my mother-in-law die of lung cancer - she smoked cigs for decades, gave it up in her 60's, and then got the diagnosis at 80. On the other hand, my father didn't smoke or drink, got plenty of exercise, ate well, and died in his 50's of a lung ailment (might have been related to his father's smoking, or might have been related to the VOCs in the printer's ink he worked around most of his adult life as a commercial art teacher). I babied my lungs for 47 years before finding out that pipe smoke (which I never found as obnoxious as cigarette smoke) doesn't get inhaled as it's produced... I'm guessing that since the ads making cigs look cool and sexy didn't work on me that the dire warnings probably won't as well.

 

[ssjones]

Do-good politicians are constantly trying to save us from ourselves, at all costs. (seatbelts, helmets, etc.) They are more than happy to apply the sin tax to the things they say cause addictions and kill us. You can't legislate common sense, but they sure love trying.

 

[chopsie]

Those warnings have been on all tobacco products in most countries for more than a decade, like it or not the world is just going that way.

 

[instymp]

Foggy, they are looking at football too.

Most of Europe is like that, not just the Brits, and due to popular request, America is almost there also.

 

[misterlowercase]

Those warnings have been on all tobacco products in most countries for more than a decade, like it or not the world is just going that way.

Sadly true, here's a list of 168 parties/countries actively engaged with enforcing the WHO FCTC mandates:

http://www.who.int/fctc/signatories_parties/en/index.html

There's 9 countries who signed, but didn't ratify it into law:

United States of America

Switzerland

Mozambique

Morocco

Haiti

Ethiopia

El Salvador

Cuba

Argentina
"Since it was adopted by the World Health Assembly in 2003, 172 countries and the European Union have become Parties to the WHO FCTC. Among other measures, the Parties are obliged over time to:
- protect people from exposure to tobacco smoke

- ban tobacco advertising and sales to minors

- put large health warnings on packages of tobacco

- ban or limit additives to tobacco products

- increase tobacco taxes

- create a national coordinating mechanism for tobacco control.
This year, the tobacco epidemic will kill nearly 6 million people, including some 600 000 nonsmokers who will die from exposure to tobacco smoke. By 2030, it could kill 8 million."
Each country/party pretty much draft their laws under the NATO/WHO guidelines.

Here's an example of what the regulations look like (complete with horrorshow graphics) from Ireland

(pdf)

"toradh caithimh tobac"

http://www.dohc.ie/legislation/statutory_instruments/pdf/si20110656.pdf?direct=1

"printed in black Helvetica bold type on a white background at such a

font size as to occupy the greatest possible proportion of the area set

aside for the text required"

 

[Perique]

What we really need is a "national coordinating mechanism". What could go wrong?

 

[anthonyrosenthal74]

I wonder what our country's forefathers would think of all the legislation and taxation in this country now.

 

[juozapas]

It's what's inside that counts !! :worship: ::

 

[sjfine]

I predict a resurgence in the use of cigarette cases.

 

[misterlowercase]

New dude at FDA tobacco control center to start Mar. 4
FDA Names Critic To Oversee Tobacco
In an editorial last year in the publication Tobacco Control, Mr. Zeller wrote that "action is sometimes sacrificed to process" at the FDA. "It falls to the leadership of FDA to ensure the requisite level of health urgency and a commitment to doing business differently," he added in the opinion piece. Mr. Zeller declined to speak on Friday.
In a statement, Altria said the FDA under Dr. Deyton "has been focused on establishing a science and evidence-based approach to regulating tobacco products." The company "will continue to engage with the Agency to further this regulatory focus on science and evidence," it added.
Michael Siegel, a professor at Boston University's School of Public Health, thinks Mr. Zeller will likely take "a much more hard-line approach" in his dealings with tobacco companies but voiced concern that the incoming official has been paid to advise pharmaceutical companies in recent years.
Mitch Zeller has been quoted as saying:

"After my family, tobacco control is my first love."



He loathes the tobacco industry, which he regards as diabolical.
So how can tobacco use be controlled? Zeller says with disappointment that due to high-pressure lobbying on the U.S. government, it has not yet ratified the World Health Organization's Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC), which was passed by more than 160 countries...
Will he try to push the FCTC?

 

[05venturer]

Here is the same thing on a tin a friend of mine gave me

:crazy:

 

[brian64]

the incoming official has been paid to advise pharmaceutical companies in recent years.

What a surprise.

 

[crazypipe]

I never pay that stuff any mind , as long as the tobacco is in the tin. ::