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chum202

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Apr 22, 2013
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Santa Barbara, CA
Before government starts facilitating silly outdoor smoke ban i think they should start banning factories that gives off harmful gasses into the air first.

 

profpar

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2011
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Buford, Georgia
I am a pipe smoking college professor. Just wish I could smoke my pipe in my office like in the "old days" rather than always having to go outside.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
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Northern New Jersey
I'm also a college professor, and last year a smoking ban was instituted campus wide. Smoking is only permitted off campus. Everyday when I pull into work I see a dozen students smoking cigs next to the college entrance, stamping out their butts in the flower planters next to the large sign of our college. I think they're protesting by leaving their butts strewn about. When I want a smoke it means taking a,drive off campus. So much for rules and regulations. You'd think they'd have bigger worries, like how to educate and retain their students. Go figure.

 

profpar

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2011
317
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Buford, Georgia
@Kashmir, at least smoking is still allowed outside at my campus. I agree there is much more important concerns, such as training students to be critical thinkers, rather than trying to be insync with a PC agenda. Is education slowly being replaced with indoctrination???

 

lordnoble

Lifer
Jul 13, 2010
2,677
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Is education slowly being replaced with indoctrination???

Yep. In grade schools now, they teach the test. Just the stuff that will be on the test. That's how the schools get government money; by getting high student scores on those ridiculous tests. I could go on and on, but why bother? No amount of my squawking will make a difference.
-Jason

 

profpar

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2011
317
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Buford, Georgia
@Lordnoble, my question was rhetorical, as I am all too familiar with this Delma. The system of teach to the test, regurgitate, and forget not only woefully underprepares students for the rigors of post secondary academia, it severely retards their ability for future learning. Because the above mentioned "educational" method has been presented to students during their developmental years as "normal", any alternative educational strategy is looked upon suspiciously, despite the fact that their accustomed educational modality has absolutely nothing to do with actual learning.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
69
Northern New Jersey
Have a look at these educational rankings by country.
Only 33 countries were surveyed.
The United States scores at #27 for math and #22 for science.
Link:
http://www.geographic.org/country_ranks/educational_score_performance_country_ranks_2009_oecd.html

 

taerin

Lifer
May 22, 2012
1,851
3
The worst part is they were policing parked cars and issuing fines to anyone smoking inside of their car via campus security guards. They would record your license plate number and match it up with the student records and write you up for disciplinary action with penalties like fees or expulsion. Hard to believe this is a University, let alone a graduate school!
I used to hand out a cigar to every group member and we'd smoke them in celebration whenever we finished a course. It is sad that it is no longer legal to do so.

 

erichbaumer

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 4, 2012
738
6
Illinois
We're still allowed to smoke outside on my campus, and I have to say I'm much more appreciative of that fact now. Also, we still have plenty of smoking professors. It seems the entire English dept. smokes a pipe, including my advisor, who I meet for a smoke on a fairly regular basis. Anyone attending the senior dinner is offered a cigar by the president himself, and there is one history professor who holds his last class of the spring semester oudside and gives everyone a cigar. I'd guess at least 10% of the male student body smokes pipes and cigars, and even more stick to cigs.

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
51
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I know Ireland was one of the first places to incur a complete indoor smoking ban (before that we did have the usual non-smoking sections of restaurants ect), but as soon as you're in that fresh air you can light up no matter where you are. The fact that a college campus thinks they can ban someone lighting a smoke of any form is ludicrous sounding.

 

erichbaumer

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 4, 2012
738
6
Illinois
Kashmir-I'm in Michigan, and it probably wouldn't take too much research to guess that it's Hillsdale College. (Plus I mentioned on another thread that my campus has the only statue of Thatcher in the U.S.). Campus even used to allow smoking indoors in a designated lounge until state law forbade it, before I was here unfortunately. It's an absolutely great school, and I doubt I would've picked up the pipe if I'd gone elsewhere.

 

bigboi

Lifer
Nov 12, 2012
1,192
3
Kashmir, I may have to follow you if they have a Allied Health Program I can teach in!!

 
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