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lraisch

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 4, 2011
859
1,851
Granite Falls, Washington state
The true conservative smokes a smooth straight billiard. Bearded misfits (redundant) smoke bents. Yuppies smoke blowfishes. Working class folk smoke cobs. Bohemians smoke authors. Wealthy dilettantes smoke freehands.

Or so I heard. Members of this forum just smoke what they like, though.
Except for the blowfish, I smoke all of them. I guess that's DEI.
 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,843
5,982
Slidell, LA
The true conservative smokes a smooth straight billiard. Bearded misfits (redundant) smoke bents. Yuppies smoke blowfishes. Working class folk smoke cobs. Bohemians smoke authors. Wealthy dilettantes smoke freehands.

Or so I heard. Members of this forum just smoke what they like, though.
But what tobacco do they smoke?
 
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SBC

Lifer
Oct 6, 2021
1,880
8,502
Yoopsconsin
Couldn’t an argument be made that Weber’s Protestant work ethic is more inherently conservative than “… a culture that once valued leisure…”?

He's referencing not the vice of sloth, but the sort of productive margin discussed in Joseph Pieper's highly recommendable Leisure: The Basis of Culture (commonly appreciated among Burkean conservatives).

To the broader discussion:
Even if the sort of conservatism in view here (the sort associated with Edmund Burke, or in 20th century America with Richard Weaver) isn't in every respect non-political, it is in any case not to be identified with the current American Right. To the degree that it has political implications, its participants tend to favor, as regards the environment, a species of agrarian conservation (ala Wendell Berry, who was hardly "right wing"); as regard economics, Chestertonian Distributism (as opposed to Oligarchic Capitalism); and in general the common-law tradition (as distinct from alternatives including Libertarianism).

Even if some Americans who participate in this sort of conservatism voted for the current POTUS, they did so extremely grudgingly and are not excited about him. He has nothing to do with this sort of conservatism. There is no political party that represents it well, but some adherents may have preferred for example the American Solidarity Party (I mention this only by way of orientation to the sort of conservatism we're talking about, since many are not familiar).

Although I'm trying to clarify the political accusations, I want to echo the others who've emphasized that what's in view here is not fundamentally a political position, but a certain posture towards reality, society, history, and the good life.
 
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warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,874
20,447
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
Contemplative resistance is what I understand your idea of this to be. An effort to leave the hurried world and have a moment to relax.
Some are unable to relax without a crutch close at hand. It's all in knowing "how" to relax, clear one's mind. I use my imagination at times to achieve such. The pipe? Simply a nicotine delivery system for me.
 

didimauw

Moderator
Staff member
Jul 28, 2013
11,136
39,668
SE WI
Some are unable to relax without a crutch close at hand. It's all in knowing "how" to relax, clear one's mind. I use my imagination at times to achieve such. The pipe? Simply a nicotine delivery system for me.
I like the idea of coming home from work, sitting in my comfy chair, and relaxing with a pipe.

But honestly I'm just in it for the nicotine. When I want it, I get it. Being a tobacco chewer and dipper, I like the mouth feel or burn. So the pipe was a great addition to that.

There's no romance for me and the pipe. But I envy those who have it. Lol.
 

SSGT.

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 7, 2024
553
3,338
Sealy Texas
You probably don't care what I think but I think it's hilarious that the 1st thread in this category is about no tolerance for political commentary, and we just spent most of 3 pages trying to decide if the word conservative is political or not.
 

peteyhan

Might Stick Around
Apr 18, 2025
60
98
Long Island, New York
You probably don't care what I think but I think it's hilarious that the 1st thread in this category is about no tolerance for political commentary, and we just spent most of 3 pages trying to decide if the word conservative is political or not.
So true, and here I am sitting here thinking, 'Wow what nice passage about the true nature of pipe smoking!'
 

mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
4,515
13,314
The Big Rock Candy Mountains
He's referencing not the vice of sloth, but the sort of productive margin discussed in Joseph Pieper's highly recommendable Leisure: The Basis of Culture (commonly appreciated among Burkean conservatives).

To the broader discussion:
Even if the sort of conservatism in view here (the sort associated with Edmund Burke, or in 20th century America with Richard Weaver) isn't in every respect non-political, it is in any case not to be identified with the current American Right. To the degree that it has political implications, its participants tend to favor, as regards the environment, a species of agrarian conservation (ala Wendell Berry, who was hardly "right wing"); as regard economics, Chestertonian Distributism (as opposed to Oligarchic Capitalism); and in general the common-law tradition (as distinct from alternatives including Libertarianism).

Even if some Americans who participate in this sort of conservatism voted for the current POTUS, they did so extremely grudgingly and are not excited about him. He has nothing to do with this sort of conservatism. There is no political party that represents it well, but some adherents may have preferred for example the American Solidarity Party (I mention this only by way of orientation to the sort of conservatism we're talking about, since many are not familiar).

Although I'm trying to clarify the political accusations, I want to echo the others who've emphasized that what's in view here is not fundamentally a political position, but a certain posture towards reality, society, history, and the good life.
Good Lord, you've a lot of labels. all incomprehensible to me.
 

lazar

Part of the Furniture Now
May 5, 2015
503
187
Nothing I like better than to sit in a lotus position, clear my mind and watch my thoughts pass by like ripples in a clear lake, while contemplating the comparative philosophies of conservatism. :rolleyes:
 
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