It wasn’t me! I’m officially sucking to finishes I don’t have now. There is a gold banded one on eBay, but the asking price is just too high.
Is that what it was listed as? And was 0 the grade they gave to supremes in the past? And what counts as 1, 2, and 3?
I think the early '0' grade was at least as good as some that now get graded 'Supreme'. Here's a 2023 POTY 'Natural' that I thought looked better than any of the Supremes I saw. Bottom pic shows it with a borrowed spigot stem, next to a 1905 ungraded system with an AB stem. Such grain was just average back then.
Yeah the jump from natural to supreme does not seem significant enough (or really at all) to warrant the price jump.I think the early '0' grade was at least as good as some that now get graded 'Supreme'. Here's a 2023 POTY 'Natural' that I thought looked better than any of the Supremes I saw. Bottom pic shows it with a borrowed spigot stem, next to a 1905 ungraded system with an AB stem. Such grain was just average back then.
The stummel stamps seem consistent over periods. They seemed to start off with a 'rule' based on shape and aesthetics, then would sometimes change it at some point, just for a shape or across all straight pipes, or across all bent pipes. For instance, there was a period when, for bent pipes, the COM stamp was on the back just under the ferrule. Then it was perpendicular to the ferrule, which it generally is today. Stamping on the ferrules seemed to be more random - I've even seen some where part of the stamping on the ferrule was perpendicular to other parts, or the stamping was completely upside-down.
Thanks ! So ... it depends on the line and time period et al. Appreciate the answer !
Yes. This will sound anal, but I've studied Peterson pre-wwii nickel and silver bands - fonts, alignment - trying to identify patterns. You can combine such information with date hallmarks and other features of the pipes to approximate date ranges. But then someone back in 1935 uses a ferrule that was created in 1925 and modern day collectors are once again confused. Why couldn't pipe-makers have been considering our needs as they did their jobs?!?Thanks ! So ... it depends on the line and time period et al. Appreciate the answer !
Do you have any examples of pre-republic block COM stamped perpendicular to the ferrule on the RH shank? All of the made in England block stamps I have seen have the COM on the back, like the Irish free state location, but I now have one on the side which has left me scratching my head…most probably for no reason at all
Show a picture.Do you have any examples of pre-republic block COM stamped perpendicular to the ferrule on the RH shank? All of the made in England block stamps I have seen have the COM on the back, like the Irish free state location, but I now have one on the side which has left me scratching my head…most probably for no reason at all
Interesting. They may have stamped stummels that way to indicate they were for pipes that were to be exported to particular countries? It would be interesting to see the ferrule stampings on those two.
No telling. I have silver ferrules that are pre-1939, during the date hallmark period, that do not have date hallmarks. Peterson was all over the board with all of these things.
