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Aug 16, 2025
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It looks like SPC found a home. I wonder if RO will still be blending Plum Pudding. I’m a fan of PP and would like to still see it on the market but wonder if it will still be the same product. Anyway, it’s nice to see that people with passion for a product are still able to push the market. The corporate powers that be in the pipe tobacco industry do not seem as interested in niche product.IMG_0141.jpeg
 

anotherbob

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I just realized that if I was a big tobacco company at this time I'd be trying to get my foot into the smaller niche type areas in tobacco. Pipes, snus, nasal snuff, and that category called others. One because it's always nice to make more money even if it's not a great deal. But the bigger reason is that all of those categories are poised to grow and I'd want to have my foot in the door and not be in a position to play catch up. And all of those not so mainstream products are in a position to potentially grow tremendously.
It's kind of the same logic that Hollywood used for distributing independent movies. One thing they'd make money even if not a lot, but you never know when one of those movies is going to be a huge hit. But the bigger thing is you might also be farming talent that you'll be glad to already have a working relationship with when they go mainstream. In the scheme of things the risk is pretty low and the potential extremely high if unlikely. I.e. you won't expect to get a huge return but if you don't it's not a big deal but if you do it might keep your company rich in the coming decades.
 
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sablebrush52

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It's kind of the same logic that Hollywood used for distributing independent movies. One thing they'd make money even if not a lot, but you never know when one of those movies is going to be a huge hit. But the bigger thing is you might also be farming talent that you'll be glad to already have a working relationship with when they go mainstream. In the scheme of things the risk is pretty low and the potential extremely high if unlikely. I.e. you won't expect to get a huge return but if you don't it's not a big deal but if you do it might keep your company rich in the coming decades.
Most independent productions are very low budget, so the level of risk isn't nearly what it is funding a blockbuster. Risking $10 million to $30 million isn't the same as risking $100 million to $300 million.
 
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anotherbob

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Most independent productions are very low budget, so the level of risk isn't nearly what it is funding a blockbuster. Risking #10 million to $30 million isn't the same as risking $100 million to $300 million.
Thank you. It feels great when someone who certainly knows the subject at hand confirms something I was trying to say. Also in most cases independent movies actually have to rely on things like story and performance instead of effects and slick editing. You know things that are paid for with human experience not cash.
 

sablebrush52

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Thank you. It feels great when someone who certainly knows the subject at hand confirms something I was trying to say. Also in most cases independent movies actually have to rely on things like story and performance instead of effects and slick editing. You know things that are paid for with human experience not cash.
True. But most of the highest grossing features are those using VFX to help tell the story. That said, the audience gets tired of the same fare over and over again, and the superhero cycle appears to be winding down.
 

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True. But most of the highest grossing features are those using VFX to help tell the story. That said, the audience gets tired of the same fare over and over again, and the superhero cycle appears to be winding down.
In my opinion all the VFX are amazing if they help the story. And all the fancy wow factors sell movies but they have a short shelf life.
I look at VFX sort of the same way I look at big fancy three dollar words in writing. Sometimes the right word helps tremendously with expressing an idea or image. But some writers need to realize no one is really impressed by their fancy words.
 

wyfbane

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It looks like SPC found a home. I wonder if RO will still be blending Plum Pudding. I’m a fan of PP and would like to still see it on the market but wonder if it will still be the same product. Anyway, it’s nice to see that people with passion for a product are still able to push the market. The corporate powers that be in the pipe tobacco industry do not seem as interested in niche product.View attachment 414978
Hope it doesn't go the way of SWR...
 
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Aug 16, 2025
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I doubt they'll bring back my favorite SPC blend (Wild Man) but I look forward to being able to buy Plum Pudding again.
I had a few tins bought last year. I’m disappointed in the price gouging since STG acquisition. If it can be sold again reasonably priced, no reason I wouldn’t buy a tin.
 

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I doubt they'll bring back my favorite SPC blend (Wild Man) but I look forward to being able to buy Plum Pudding again.
There are still tins of Wild Man out there on the various vendors, I see them quite regularly, and even at reasonable prices. I just picked up two tins of Rainier Levant, one of my favorites, for $12.99/tin at P&C. (That sale seems to have ended, it's now back up to $19.52/tin)