Sealed Tins or Mason Jars for Aging/Cellaring?

[cosmicfolklore]

I have found tins that I thought were empty or lost randomly well over a year later. They have tasted just fine, if not better in some cases.

I'm pretty sure that we collectively as pipe smokers have developed an irrational fear of things going stale. But, maybe conditions in some people's environment, such as the desert regions, do have a legitimate concern. Lately, I have been pushing the limits, letting whole tins dry out, just keeping my tobaccos in tobacco jars that don't have seals, etc...
Guys used to just put their tobaccos in these humidors that had lids that just rested on the lips of the jars. And, guys were all that concerned.
Look at the market we've created with our fears. People fighting over those bakkyflaps and those jar lid pocket thingys. Guys toting jars around in cases to be able to access their rotations on the go. I am becoming more certain that all of this is overkill.
All summer I have just kept a pound of Havana Daydream in the large plastic bag it came in, and I am certain that in the five months that I've been dipping into it, that it has done nothing but gotten better. I don't even seal the bags. I just give it a fold over and go.

 

[cigrmaster]

You’ve given me an idea - I can buy those large jars and put tins inside of jars.

That should work fine. My fee is only s 50 dollar gold piece.

It all depends on how long you want to age tobacco, and what kind of tin they're in.
If you're thinking of 10 years or more, think jars or food grade .7 mil Mylar heat sealed bags. Less than that, most tins will hold up, though the square and rectangular tins are more susceptible to seal failure than canister, or round tins.
Greg Pease was a major proponent for keeping blends in the tin, but changed his mind several years ago after finding "disappointing failures" in his cellar, and he's been cellaring since the 1980's. He now advocates tansferring to jars for aging.
C&D tins from the early 2000's of a number of Pease' blends, failed by rotting out from the inside. I've published images of this on this forum. McClelland, who used much higher food grade tins for their product are now showing problems with their 1990's tins.
I've experience a number on tin failures from tins older than a decade, including one canister Rattray's tin from 1996, that failed along the scoring line for the pop top.
Anything I want to keep for long term goes into jars or Mylar, and shorter term stuff can remain in tins.

Also, I wouldn't worry to much about the "aging interruption". Once transferred the process starts up again. And aging isn't a guarantee of anything in terms of whether or not the tobacco will taste better. That's a myth. Tobaccos change during aging, more of less, and whether that change is an improvement is up to the individual smoker to decide, not the hive mind.

Don't listen to jesse. How are you going to trust a guy who lives in freaking Burbank. Shit hole of the Universe. No not Hub of the Universe which is Boston.

 

[sablebrush52]

Hub of the Universe which is Boston.

And you live in Dickstink Florida, where alligators out number literate people by 400%. You fled Boston because you couldn't hack it. You know that. I know that. And the average Burbankian can chew the aveage Bostonian and spit him out.
Don't go riling up Californians. We started the tax revolt and be know how to shoot without blowing off our dicks.

 

[sablebrush52]

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[cigrmaster]

And you live in Dickstink Florida, where alligators out number literate people by 400%. You fled Boston because you couldn't hack it. You know that. I know that. And the average Burbankian can chew the aveage Bostonian and spit him out.
Don't go riling up Californians. We started the tax revolt and be know how to shoot without blowing off our dicks.

jesse, I wished you walked into a car dealer I was running, we would have bent you over and you would thank us profusely. Cali scum.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

jesse, I wished you walked into a car dealer I was running, we would have bent you over and you would thank us profusely. Cali scum.

Wait... were you trying to be funny... or did you just... nevermind.

 

[didimauw]

Well this has been fun.

 

[didimauw]

I'm pretty sure that we collectively as pipe smokers have developed an irrational fear of things going stale. But, maybe conditions in some people's environment, such as the desert regions, do have a legitimate concern. Lately, I have been pushing the limits, letting whole tins dry out, just keeping my tobaccos in tobacco jars that don't have seals, etc...
Guys used to just put their tobaccos in these humidors that had lids that just rested on the lips of the jars. And, guys were all that concerned.
Look at the market we've created with our fears. People fighting over those bakkyflaps and those jar lid pocket thingys. Guys toting jars around in cases to be able to access their rotations on the go. I am becoming more certain that all of this is overkill.
All summer I have just kept a pound of Havana Daydream in the large plastic bag it came in, and I am certain that in the five months that I've been dipping into it, that it has done nothing but gotten better. I don't even seal the bags. I just give it a fold over and go.

This is the correct way. See you guys in another thread!