Scarcity of Certain Pipe Tobaccos

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Thepipehunter

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If it's what you like, buy as much of it as you can, when you can. If I knew a few years ago what I know now, I would have taken out a loan if had to just to buy all the FMC I could find.
 
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What the manufacturer's and retailers should be thinking about is "Unless new Pipe Smokers come along to increase the purchasing population, what happens when the existing Pipe Smokers fill out their cellars?" I'm far from the only one who has built up a significant cellar the past few years and I see many others working on it now. What if taxes, tariffs, etc. cause a substantial increase in tobacco prices as well? While that increases the actual revenue of sellers, it does little to nothing for their profits. So what happens in 2 to 5 years as people like myself finally say "I have enough"?
 

dcon

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What the manufacturer's and retailers should be thinking about is "Unless new Pipe Smokers come along to increase the purchasing population, what happens when the existing Pipe Smokers fill out their cellars?" I'm far from the only one who has built up a significant cellar the past few years and I see many others working on it now. What if taxes, tariffs, etc. cause a substantial increase in tobacco prices as well? While that increases the actual revenue of sellers, it does little to nothing for their profits. So what happens in 2 to 5 years as people like myself finally say "I have enough"?
I was alluding to this in another post the other day. It seems like tobacco manufacturers, like many companies, are focusing on the short term. Maybe this is because they do not believe that there is a “long term”. It is an intriguing business model.
 

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I was alluding to this in another post the other day. It seems like tobacco manufacturers, like many companies, are focusing on the short term. Maybe this is because they do not believe that there is a “long term”. It is an intriguing business model.

Actually, I'm not so certain that is true. This may explain, at least to a degree, the scarcity. Assuming they could acquire the raw materials, one would think given the demand, they would ramp up production and try to ship everything that would sell. It would appear that demand and scarcity hasn't changed their production output to any appreciable degree. So they may well be aware of the cellaring practices and purposefully allowing the shelves to remain bare for extended periods to extend out the demand over time.

Only they know for sure what they're thinking (assuming they are in fact giving considerable thought to it). Let's face it, if you had $20 million dollars you had to invest in a new business in the next year, it's unlikely you'd choose tobacco products for that investment unless you were mad at your money.
 

mso489

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It's my old soap box, but I give high points to brands and blends that anticipate demand, or respond to it, and keep up wide distribution and supply. A good business is more often a good product, and out-of-stock is a blemish on the blend as much as the retailer. The customer is financing the whole show, after all.
 

craig61a

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It’s the Wild West out there... somebody comes on here and does a glowing review of some tobacco, and stuff that’s sat for months goes flying off the shelves.

Buy what you can afford when it becomes available.

Prices on the secondary market, especially for unicorns, or out of production stuff are all over the board. There’s one vendor that more or less sets the benchmark price on that, but if there are people out there willing to pay, so be it.
 

Pipewizard420

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it can be frustrating when looking for certain blends only to discover they are "sold out" or "backordered" in other words.

Being that we are part of a small community as MOST smokers are in the cigarette/cigar camp making pipe tobacco the minority. I for one am thankful to have discovered pipe tobacco and only wish I had tried it years earlier to help kick the cigs (still working on quitting those nasty things but it's a process).

With the amount of options available these days there are plenty of other blends to try making it not such a big deal if you are not able to track down a particular blend. This is by far the most relaxing tobacco form IMO so it's best to just sit back and smoke whatever blends you are able to aquire and enjoy the moment.
 

mso489

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My dad smoked only one blend in one kind of package, Granger in the foil pouch. Shrewdly, he chose one that was widely distributed in ample supply for all of his fifty years of smoking before he quit cold turkey at 65 to live more than another twenty years. I give extra points to brands and blends that keep up with demand and distribute widely. The one blend loyalty seems like a hard road, and pipe smoking is supposed to be about relaxation and pleasure. Like the earlier post said, stock up big when you find your blend in stock, and perhaps sample a little here and there to see if you couldn't find one or two back-up blends that you'd find acceptable. The tobacco market seems to be about to go into a dark time, and you don't sound prepared to adapt. You might even contact P&C and set up a standing large order for your favorite, so when it comes in, you'll be there first. They might even up their wholesale order to make sure you get what you need.
 
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