Savinelli - Website Pricing - USA Pricing More Expensive

[PipeIT]

I have been eyeing over their Sun Set 114 KS they have shown on their site.

When you go to their site it asks you to pick a country, yesterday I just clicked Australia.

When I saw the pipe, I immediately noticed it was around 47.46 Euro cheaper, from when I had seen it a few weeks ago.

I then thought there must be a holiday special going on, so I left the site and came back, this time clicking on the United States.

To my surprise it was showing up under the United States now 47.46 Euro more expensive.

So I left the site again, this time I came back and logged in under Canada, and the pipe once again was 47.46 Euro cheaper.

So I left the site again, trying it under the United States one more time, and the same, another 47.46 Euro more expensive.

I just hope this is a website error, because if not, that is really odd you are asking citizens of another country to pay more than people from other countries.

I sent Savinelli an email asking about this, can’t wait to hear what they have to say, as I certainly don’t want to pay 47.46 Euro more, and I hope I can get it for 116.39 Euro.

Here’s a screen shot of the price it showed me for Australia and Canada.





Here’s the price it showed me for the United States.

 

[seanv]

It might be related to import tariffs or taxes which vary by country?

 

[PipeIT]

It might be related to import tariffs or taxes which vary by country?

I assumed something like that would be more in line directed towards Businesses not Consumers.

100 Euro that Savinelli gets from a citizen of one country vs another, shouldn’t mean Savinelli has to pay Italy differences in taxes, if they did that’s strange. The only countries that would be effected I assume would be against a nation that had Embargo against them.

Differences in currency I assumed only happened on the receivers ends, needing to pay duty custom fees when importing, not the seller charging more, for any collection purposes on their end.

Hmm ?

 

[jvnshr]

It is 163.85 for US customers, probably due to the MSRP policy.

 

[PipeIT]

It is 163.85 for US customers, probably due to the MSRP policy.

Interesting point that it might be listed for a countries MSRP, but then, if you look at eCommerce on many websites around the world, this is not something you see, I personally have never seen this before.

If this is true, the only thing Savinelli should be concerned with is the asking price they want to get from a pipe, and if that is 100 Euro, then it shouldn’t matter what country you live in for them to receive the 100 Euro price they are asking.

100 Euro from a consumer in Canada
100 Euro from a consumer in the USA

Both countries, you just received the 100 Euro you wanted.

P.S. Remember this is about Consumer eCommerce, not Business Importation Exportation.

 

[jvnshr]

Interesting point that it might be listed for a countries MSRP, but then, if you look at eCommerce on many websites around the world, this is not something you see, I personally have never seen this before.

If this is true, the only thing Savinelli should be concerned with is the asking price they want to get from a pipe, and if that is 100 Euro, then it shouldn’t matter what country you live in for them to receive the 100 Euro price they are asking.

100 Euro from a consumer in Canada
100 Euro from a consumer in the USA

Both countries, you just received the 100 Euro you wanted.

Unless you as a manufacturer has an agreement with the US distributor preventing you from selling the pipe for a cheaper price on your own website.

That comment of mine is just an assumption of course, hopefully Savinelli will have an explanation.

 

[PipeIT]

Unless you as a manufacturer has an agreement with the US distributor preventing you from selling the pipe for a cheaper price on your own website.

That comment of mine is just an assumption of course, hopefully Savinelli will have an explanation.

The manufacturer/distributor agreement(s), I understand, but this is about Consumer Purchasing.

I can’t wait for what Savinelli has to say.

 

[jvnshr]

This is the list of the countries that the item is sold for 163.85:

The manufacturer/distributor agreement(s), I understand, but this is about Consumer Purchasing.

I work in a supply and trading company. When you are a manufacturer and have several distributors all over the world you set an MSRP for the countries where your distributors are active. Everyone knows that once in a while there is going to be someone who will try to purchase the item directly from the manufacturer, which would be bad for the business of the distributor. So the manufacturer either agrees not to sell directly to the consumers or to sell for the designated price.

Let's see if you are saving any money if you buy from Savinelli anyway. Laudisi (smokingpipes.com) is the distributor of Savinelli in the States, that pipe costs $176 on their website, even if you buy it for 116.39 from Savinelli, there is going to be a shipping fee for 20 euros, $165 in total. You will be saving only $11, plus you have to wait for few weeks so it can get delivered to you from Europe.

If I order that pipe the price will be 116.39 + 35 (shipping), $183 in total for me.

 

[PipeIT]

Ahh, I wasn’t thinking about an agreement, so a consumer couldn’t purchase for a lesser price that a Local B&M or Website Retailer in their country, valid point.

I haven’t seen anyone online selling the pipe, that is why I was looking at a direct purchase.

Savinelli told me the 20 Euro shipping is UPS Express, so it’s days to a week at most, not weeks.

I will however continue to surf the web looking, SPC at one point in time was selling it.

For me I am seeing at a discount $165.35 vs $222.89, that’s a savings of $57.54 between the country differences.

For me, I’d rather pay Savinelli a total of $165 instead of $222.

 

[jvnshr]

For me I am seeing at a discount $165.35 vs $222.89, that’s a savings of $57.54 between the country differences.

Haha, well, nobody is getting that pipe for $165.35.

 

[PipeIT]

Haha, well, nobody is getting that pipe for $165.35.

Hey my pipe is Half Full, not Half Empty... LOL

But I get the feeling you could be right, but with the Holidays here, maybe if not this, there will be a Holiday Discount on the site soon.

Hopefully I’ll Get a reply back tomorrow...

 

[mso489]

I wouldn't be likely to go back to the inequality of pricing between nations. I'd be comparing the Sav U.S. price as compared to what I perceived to be comparable pipes at their prices in the U.S. There are continual fluctuations in currency valuations that make the prices unequal. Every time you change currency when traveling, you make or lose money, usually not much.

 

[jvnshr]

But I get the feeling you could be right, but with the Holidays here, maybe if not this, there will be a Holiday Discount on the site soon.

I might be wrong, although what I said above is a common procedure in business, that might not be true in your case. I know how it feels, when you see a cheaper price you don't want to go back to the expensive one, I guess we all understand now how the guys in Canada or Australia feel when they see the tobacco prices in the States.

 

[PipeIT]

Well, I shall report back when I get their email...

 

[Briar Baron]

About time us Aussies got a break somewhere!!

 

[brut666]

Well, I shall report back when I get their email...

I'm interested also, they have a pipe that I want but like you have found out, it's 47 euros more expensive for UK purchase.

 

[brut666]

@PipeIT , did you get a reply back from savinelli? I got one today.

 

[jvnshr]

@PipeIT , did you get a reply back from savinelli? I got one today.View attachment 54817

Thanks for the info.

 

[PipeIT]

No reply.

I have sent them a few emails in the past to inquire about a few pipes, and shipping, maybe they got tired of me.

I understand how the world sells at a different price, in their various countries, but this is the Internet/Cyberspace/eCommerce, it’s suppose to be a Level Playing Field.

Savinelli, should change this, because we are not walking into a B&M in our own country, where of course we see a difference.

We’re consumers making Online Internet purchases direct from a manufacturer, the only concern of GEO location, should only be for shipping costs.

 

[sfduke]

@PipeIT
As a long-time enthusiast of Savinelli pipes, can confirm the MSRPs in the US are higher than buy the same pipe from Italy.

Laudisi is the US distributor, which is why you always see SP selling everything at 25% off the inflated retail prices. Makes it hard for mom-and-pop B&Ms to compete with the smaller margins to be competitive.

You will find the same pipe from Italy including the shipping and ex-VAT to be significantly cheaper overall. Hope this helps.