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georged

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Mar 7, 2013
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I thought I'd continue with the Sasieni fever that's hit the board the past couple of weeks.
These are both from (as best I can figure) the 1950's. The bottom one I've had for 30+ years, and is one of my Desert Island Seven.
I liked it so much that when I saw another at a show several years back I grabbed it even though it had a crack starting at the end of the shank. I've always liked the barbaric splendor of tasteful metal on a pipe, could tell it would look OK with a band even though Joel didn't put it there, knew a guy who would do it right 8) , and the model was fairly scarce, so thought I'd give it a go. Glad I did. It smokes 95% as yummy as the first one.
Please excuse the grubby stems. A shoemaker's children have no shoes, etc. :lol:
The stats are 6.25" long, 2.25" tall, and 61.8 grams. (Dunhill ODA size)
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scrooge

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Apr 24, 2015
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Very nice pair georged! A little big for ashdigger so you won't have to worry about him coming after you. " Maybe"

 
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Those are a couple of good looking pipes. I really like the 'king size' moniker and to have two of them together is great!

 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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George, very nice. Do they have a town name, are they King Size versions of the Buckingham (shape 55)?

 

georged

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Do they have a town name, are they King Size versions of the Buckingham (shape 55)?
Nothing but a single small digit stamped on the other side of the shank (which is why I didn't take a flipside pic).
I'm not sure if they're a scaled up "regular line" pipe, or are proportionately different somehow. Sounds like a job for the Sasieni equivalent of the Duke Street Irregulars. :lol:

 

georged

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Well, this is a timely post.......... I just got a two dot king size yesterday.... I'll post pics tomorrow.
Can't wait to see it. :D
I remember two dots well from my Marine Corps days shopping at the base exchange. They were the premium line in the display case, and sold for $25. How times change, huh? :lol: Today (says the CPI calculator), that would be $122.43. I suppose they would have sold for $40 or so in the civilian world, which would be around $200 today. Still a good deal.
I understand since there were never all that many made, their relative rarity is worth a bump to today's collectors.
PS -- By coincidence, I just now finished a smoke in the banded one. T'was MAH-velous! (5 parts Kendal Kentucky, 2 parts Brown Bogie, 1 part SG's #4 brown rope)

 

sasquatch

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Jul 16, 2012
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George I could polish those up for you if you liked, I have the equipment.
You're welcome.
T

 

beefeater33

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Apr 14, 2014
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They were the premium line in the display case, and sold for $25. How times change, huh?
My Oh My..... they sure do!.........

Well, here's mine, as I said I JUST got it, and haven't cleaned it up yet. Model # 56SG. I need to tweak the bend in the stem, It just doesn't have enough bend.......

Also, (and this is a bit dis-appointing) the dots are TWO DIFFERENT SIZES!!!!!........ :evil:

I'm no expert, but this appears to be a factory stem, but the different size dots are very obvious to the naked eye, and I'm not sure my OCD will ever accept them.........

This is a BIG pipe too, by my standards: 6 1/2" Long, 2-1/4" High,with a 7/8" chamber. 70 grams.

Overall, I LOVE the wood on this...., the stem??..... eh, not so much.............
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georged

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VERY cool, Mr. Bovineconsumer.
The stem looks original to me, and the dot size mistake makes me think that's WHY it's a two dot. :lol:
My understanding has always been that two dot pipes were downgraded four dots. Meaning UNLESS something turned up that bounced them, they became fours. And "something" could mean a HUMAN mistake as well as a wood pit or a bald spot.
It's possible that when the stem emblem guy realized he'd screwed up, he tossed the pipe into the two dot basket for final stamping. Easier and cheaper than running a stummel with a stem already cut & fitted back through the line.
Further evidence to support that thought is that the wood on your specimen is excellent. Usually two dots have a washed-out area or etc.
Nice piece in any event. A clean up and proper stem bending and you're in bidness. :D

 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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So, shape 56, the Viscount Lascelles. The larger of those two dots does look a little suspect...as in it was replaced during a repair.

 

ssjones

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That two Dot 56SG is very interesting. As Dave mentions the shape 56 is the Viscount Lascelles, but my version is only 57 grams.
Here's a King Size Shape 56 offered by Briar Blues, a Four Dot Ruff Root that interestingly, also only weighs 57 grams. This will also show you the correct stem bend.
http://www.briarblues.com/rua109.htm

(this one is tempting...!)
My Shape 56 is easily one of my best smoking pipes, so I hope yours will be as well!

 

georged

Lifer
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George I could polish those up for you if you liked, I have the equipment.
You're welcome.
T
Hmmm...
Something is fishy about this.
Let me think... A 900 pound, ice-cave dwelling, frozen mammoth-human who snacks on lost hikers like hors d'oeuvres, is suddenly interested in lending a helping claw-paw to perform a task he knows full well I can do myself. I sense disingenuousness. Perhaps outright deception.
I have a feeling, in other words, that if I were to send the pipes to Mr. Squatch, there they would stay. And any request to send them back would be answered with, "Sure. No problem. Come and get 'em. And bring some barbeque sauce and a roll of paper towels while you're at it."
:lol:

 
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