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ssjones

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Most of you know that I'm a Sasieni fan and in particular the Ashford (#88) shape. I have that model in five finishes, including an unsmoked Natural (that gets smoked in December, for the birth of my first grandchild).
But, I've never owned an 8 Dot or even a Patent era Sasieni. Mine are all Four Dot pipes, made after 1946 when the nomenclature changed.
I took a big gulp and bid on this incorrectly listed pipe that was in reality an 8-Dot,Patent era Ashford. There appeared to be a fissure on the shank and someone asked the seller if there were any cracks. He answered "no", so I took the gamble.
The pipe arrived and it was indeed a Patent era pipe. The patent number was stamped on the underside of the stem and just legible. Amazingly, it also had the screw-in stinger. The bowl and stem were in fantastic condition. The stem had only the lightest of teeth abrasions and 8, beautiful blue dots in the old style pattern. But, there was indeed a crack on the right side that ran all the way through.
I was at first hopeful that perhaps a slim ring could be made and of course checked with George D. He advised that only a wide band, to cover the entire crack would work and of course that would have been hideous and ruined the excellent nomenclature block. So, I reluctantly sent it back. The seller was a gentleman and I was quickly given a full refund
What a shame....it's doubtful I'll ever encounter an Ashford with these specs again.
















 

ssjones

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Oh yeah, I sold seven pipes to have adequate funds....

But, I'm currently eye-balling a few pipes that will help ease the pain.

On the other hand, I guess that I was fortunate to be able to handle it. Sealing up that return box was pretty tough.

 

georged

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Since someone is bound to ask a technical question or two, and I hate typing, :lol: here is the relevant portion of my reply to Al:
Cracks like that one are under constant outward pressure from the inserted tenon, and the cycling of heat and moisture from smoking makes the wood expand and contract like a microscopic, slow motion heartbeat. The result is they "crawl" over time and use. Meaning become longer. Look closely at the side view and you can see a hairline extending past the original filled-in crack. (Apparently a chip popped out when the damage first occurred) The only way to stop that from getting worse (or mattering if it does), is a band that extends 1/8" -- 3/16" farther up the shank than the crack itself.
That, together with a thin repair band over the top of rustication always looking bad as a categorical thing---never mind that a wide enough one to be a fix in this case would cover the stamping---and I wouldn't recommend trying to salvage the pipe if it can be returned.

 

pagan

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Very nice grain on that, to bad to see it go I once saw, at a show, a Blue dot but then I didn't know the history and passed cause I thought the price was a bit extreme

 

ssjones

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That is the hand-carved "Rustic" finish but this one lacks the Rustic stamp. I guess there wasn't enough room on the nomenclature block (typically the patent number are there as well).
@georged - thanks for the clarifying reply and for your expertise.
I did offer to keep the pipe at a reduced rate but the seller declined. If the price was right, I would have banded and smoked it. I hope it doesn't end up in someones trash bin...

 

wyfbane

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Apr 26, 2013
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Oh man. That is a heart breaker. Sorry, man. At least you got your money back! Keep searching. You are patient and always seem to find the white whales. I am sure you will find an even more awesome pipe in the future!
Dang!! Well, you're not getting the Comoys back. Lol.
Yes, I felt the sympathy oozing out of that comment... ^

 

mso489

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Feb 21, 2013
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What a disappointment. I'm glad the seller made good. I hope this means something equally choice, but completely as described, comes your way soon.

 

ssjones

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Well, the pipe has been relisted and the crack is disclosed. Nonetheless, it has already been bid up to $100 with six days to go. This should be interesting to watch. The seller did use some of the information that I gave him.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-RARE-SASIENI-ASHFORD-8-DOT-LONDON-MADE-TOBACCO-PIPE-NO-RESERVE-/201698500391?hash=item2ef62adf27:g:P1oAAOSwcLxYDUyw

 

codecreatively

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Sep 17, 2014
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I was wondering if that was the same pipe. I couldn't quite make out a crack in his photos.
Did you tell him to put the stem on upside down? ;)

 
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