Sasieni Four Dot Restoration, and a Question

[agnosticpipe]

I won this auction for an old Sasieni Four Dot Natural "Victoria" on eBay for $28 mainly because it was in poor condition I guess. I like a challenge from time to time and this looked to be one. I've included some before and after pics.
However, I have a couple of questions about this pipe. I know it's probably a family era pipe, but I had never heard of the "Victoria" shape designation before. It's nice size Dublin that may have been messed with in the past. It has a London Made stamp, but not a Made in England stamp. It also looks to have been stained a reddish color at some point because I thought that the Natural finish pipes didn't have any stain applied. The dots look to be faded out to very light blue, almost white.

Any thoughts on its age or quirks would be appreciated.
Before:



After:

 

[donjgiles]

Well done!!

 

[ashdigger]

Very nice. I can narrow down the date of manufacture....... between 1949 and 1979

 

[mikestanley]

Did you rebuild the lip end? It looks like whatever you did, you did it very well.

Mike S.

 

[agnosticpipe]

Did you rebuild the lip end? It looks like whatever you did, you did it very well.

Mike S.

Yeah Mike, I rebuilt the end and tried something new. I usually use black super glue, and it looks good, but doesn't hold up real well if I clench. So I tried what George D. advises, using epoxy with a color additive. I've messed with this a couple of times before but always have trouble getting the black dark enough. This time it worked a little better, but you can still see a small difference if you look close enough. I'll see how it holds up this time.

 

[ChuckMijo]

Yeah Mike, I rebuilt the end and tried something new. I usually use black super glue, and it looks good, but doesn't hold up real well if I clench. So I tried what George D. advises, using epoxy with a color additive. I've messed with this a couple of times before but always have trouble getting the black dark enough. This time it worked a little better, but you can still see a small difference if you look close enough. I'll see how it holds up this time.

By the way looks fantastic!! Great job. If I have a big tooth fill I use a old vulcanite stem as a donor. I scrap it in to a powder. Then mix it with black superglue. It seems to work better than anything else I tried. I seen the video on the epoxy. I never tried it. I guess I should . Again that looks great!!

 

[mikethompson]

Great job!

I noticed the stem repair too, as that is a tricky spot for me, but yours is well matched.

 

[Mr.Mike]

Wow great job!

 

[ssjones]

Great job all around!

The Victoria is their Shape 71 and it is not listed in their 1930 catalog, but shows up on later shape charts, so Ash's date of 1946 forward seems correct.

 

[agnosticpipe]

Great job all around!

The Victoria is their Shape 71 and it is not listed in their 1930 catalog, but shows up on later shape charts, so Ash's date of 1946 forward seems correct.

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Thanks for the post Al. I've only seen the left side of that shape chart before. Nice to see the complete chart.

 

[mau1]

Impressive work! The bit rebuild especially. A handsome pipe.

 

[agnosticpipe]

Just noticed something while smoking this pipe. I don't know how I missed this before, but I caught a little glimpse of something and got a magnifier out to look and I think I found the Made In England stamp on this pipe. I'd been looking beneath the London Made stamp as most of them have that type so I didn't think to look for this type. It looks like it was the football shape stamp that is barely there. Check out these pics and tell me what you think, does this style stamp makes any difference in age? Sorry for all the dust specks.

 

[ssjones]

I can't see the stamp in the picture, but the football shape would only affirm a mid 40's to '70 date of manufacture (Town name, no patent number)

 

[FurCoat]

Great job. I enjoy bringing pipes back to life