Same Blend Sold under Different Names.

[birdog]

No all capitals unless it's to warn us the sky is falling.

I have just learned that some blends that can be bought in bulk, are the same exact blends that can be bought in tins under a different name. This is a bit of a revelation to me. Anyone want to comment on duplicates that they are aware of , or the companies that often do this?
thanks!!

 

[mikethompson]

Yes, usually a B&M will have a house blend which is really just a rebranded bulk.

 

[MattRVA]

One that’s been on my mind lately is GH&CO Louisiana Flake, Hansom Flake and GL Pease Stonehenge Flake. I had my suspicions but apparently they are exactly the same.

 

[Piping Abe]

GH Rum Flake used to Peterson’s Hyde Park. It is no longer the case. And the new Hyde Park is the most underwhelming blend I have smoked.

 

[canucklehead]

Sutliff sells some of their products under multiple names and/or sub-brands, such as the Super Value and Backwoods pouches.

 

[Piping Abe]

Sutliff sells some of their products under multiple names and/or sub-brands, such as the Super Value and Backwoods pouches.

Those are the same?

 

[canucklehead]

Those are the same?

Yeah, also the "Smoker Friendly" pouches in the US and the "Mr. B's" pouches in Canada.

 

[Sigmund]

I wonder if some of it is batches that didnt quite meet guidelines. Still good tobacco but didnt hit the mark.

 

[fireground_piper]

It doesn’t even have to be bulk vs tin. It can even be the same tin with a different label.

Sillem's Commodore / John Ayelesbury's Commander / Robert McConnell's Latakia Flake - Identical? :: Pipe Tobacco Discussion

Just out of curiosity. I'm aware that these are all manufactured by Kolhasse & Kopp and I have tins of each, all circular tins and recent productions (not the older square tins). They all have exactly the same tin note and look/feel. All of them appear to be a Ky/Cav/Lat blend and seem to...

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[cosmicfolklore]

Molto Dolce is Creme Brule in bulk, except MD has an extra squirt of that topping.

 

[LotusEater]

One that’s been on my mind lately is GH&CO Louisiana Flake, Hansom Flake and GL Pease Stonehenge Flake. I had my suspicions but apparently they are exactly the same.

If this is true I wish I’d known sooner
I’m a big fan of Stonehenge and I’ve been rationing my last couple of tins.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Molto Dolce is Creme Brule in bulk, except MD has an extra squirt of that topping.

Not at all as confirmed by @JimInks. It's just a difference of oxygen exposure. Most if not all of Sutliff's tins have a renamed bulk.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Yes, usually a B&M will have a house blend which is really just a rebranded bulk.

I can't discern a difference between Straus Sleepy Hollow and Sutliff Pumpkin Spice.

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

Does anyone know if Bobs Square cut is the same as Bob's Chocolate just in a broken flake?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Not at all as confirmed by @JimInks. It's just a difference of oxygen exposure. Most if not all of Sutliff's tins have a renamed bulk.

Go back to the PM Radioshow where Paul Creasy, (then) CEO of Sutliff was a guest. If the CEO says that it is the same, except for the extra squirt, then I believe him. I'm not relying on my own taste buds...

 

[Peter Turbo]

One that’s been on my mind lately is GH&CO Louisiana Flake, Hansom Flake and GL Pease Stonehenge Flake. I had my suspicions but apparently they are exactly the same.

Unless its confirmed by @gawithhoggarth I'm calling bullshit on this.

 

[birdog]

yes, wow , it is prevalent...I imagine maybe in the bigger houses...sutliff, Lane, Stokkebye...

 

[MattRVA]

Unless its confirmed by @gawithhoggarth I'm calling bullshit on this.

Rachel mentioned it on the Speakeasy forum, I was and still am skeptical too but they are extremely similar to say the least.

 

[MattRVA]

From Rachel at GH&Co:

“Ok so to clarify this again.

1) Louisana Flake/Hansom Flake and Stonehenge are/were all exactly the same.
2) We only make Louisiana Flake now or I suppose you could argue we make all 3 as all the same. But as a registered/listed product that we make, we make Louisana Flake only.
3) Louisana flake was shipped in bulk to the states were it was cut down or whatever to put in the "peanut containers" and sold as C&D Stonehenge.
4) The only "special blend" we make is Brown Sugar.
5) Peanuts tend to come in bags here in the UK. These containers C&D use are more like "Pringle" containers, a type of crisp, known as chips I believe in the states. Chips are what we eat with fish or steak.”

https://speak-easy.club/threads/so-here-i-am.37424/page-23#post-677847

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Almost all of the old Dunhill (now Peterson) branded blends were made by Brigham for a while when they were originally pulled from the market, long before Dunhill just removed the name altogether. Now, they are sold under a different name by Brigham. But, I guess as the blenders have changed several times now, they are different somewhat. Someone else may know more specifics about this transitional period. But, back then, most swore they were dead ringers, which they should have been, since they were using the same recipes.

Acadian Blend - Elizabethian
Heritage - 965
Klondike - Light Flake
Maritime Morning - EMP
It seems like there were a few others, but my memory...