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Briar Lee

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The Japanese lost four fleet carriers and 240 first class aircraft and just over a hundred carrier pilots at Midway.

They replaced all the planes and had other carriers, but those dead pilots couldn’t train other pilots.

By the Battle of Leyte Gulf in 1944 the Japanese used their last carriers as decoys for want of pilots.

The US Navy operates 11 full size flight decks, and only about three are operating on station and fully deployed at any given time, so the fate of the entire free world hinges on less than three hundred naval aviators, on any given day.
 
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This is a total non-sequitur but an interesting fact I heard. When it came time, Gorbachev handed over the “nuclear suitcase” to Boris Yeltsin. What he didn’t know was that it wasn’t the real suitcase which had been handed over some weeks before.
 

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Poor eyesight (20/200 without correction) dashed my dreams of the Air Force Academy in 1975.:)

It’s hard to accept that in fifty years the B-52, the basic heavy bomber of the United States Air Force is still flying and will be for many more years to come.


Someday the last manned warplane will fly it’s last mission.

Unless and until it does kids all over the world will dream of being a jet pilot in combat.
In the late 60s defective color vision saved my ass from being assigned to do one of the most dangerous jobs in the Air Force. The North Vietnamese actually had a bounty on use.... alive. puffy
 

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so the fate of the entire free world hinges on less than three hundred naval aviators, on any given day.
Even though I'm a Navy man (Submariner of 28 years) this is a wild overstatement, We shouldn't forget the other ~1.3 million servicemembers deployed around the world as well as the other elements of national power.

On average 3 carriers are deployed on any given day. Each carrier carries ~70 aircraft, not all of which are strike aircraft, so at max, about 210 naval aviators are deployed to flight status. A bit less than 300. Some of these will be assigned to helos, command, and control A/C and EA-18s.

BTW the smoking lamp is LIGHTED, not lit.
 

Briar Lee

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Even though I'm a Navy man (Submariner of 28 years) this is a wild overstatement, We shouldn't forget the other ~1.3 million servicemembers deployed around the world as well as the other elements of national power.

On average 3 carriers are deployed on any given day. Each carrier carries ~70 aircraft, not all of which are strike aircraft, so at max, about 210 naval aviators are deployed to flight status. A bit less than 300. Some of these will be assigned to helos, command, and control A/C and EA-18s.

BTW the smoking lamp is LIGHTED, not lit.

Bad place to have a case of raging influenza ain’t it?.:)

Iran has three old diesel electric subs.

Two carriers are on station there and another one has to go home and a third one, is on the way.

Our Iranian sub commander gets word a carrier is passing right over him.

One torpedo and there are not many fighter jockeys left on the other carrier.

People say we have too many super carriers.

If the shooting starts we can’t have enough.
 

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Bad place to have a case of raging influenza ain’t it?.:)

Iran has three old diesel electric subs.

Two carriers are on station there and another one has to go home and a third one, is on the way.

Our Iranian sub commander gets word a carrier is passing right over him.

One torpedo and there are not many fighter jockeys left on the other carrier.

People say we have too many super carriers.

If the shooting starts we can’t have enough.
Captpat is pretty accurate... I'll add, it would be enormously difficult for Iran to even remotely attempt to target a carrier in a diesel class. They would be engaged and despatched before there was any significant ability to do harm. There are many different methods to know exactly where these guys are at all times.
 
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Briar Lee

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Captpat is pretty accurate... I'll add, it would be enormously difficult for Iran to even remotely attempt to target a carrier in a diesel class. They would be engaged and despatched before there was any significant ability to do harm. There are many different methods to know exactly where these guys are at all times.

The USS Indianapolis ran right over a submarine in the middle of the Pacific.

The last significant ship loss to our navy, and the only time a really big ship went down at sea with the loss of most of her crew.

However well escorted and tough they are an enemy can get lucky and put one down and with the loss of 6,000 crew.

We’d have 10 more to send and three building.

But would our public today stand the initial shock?

In a way they are like floating queens on a chessboard so valuable we really don’t dare ever risking one.
 
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