Sadly, even indie bands these days with a moderate amount of success need to keep their day jobs...
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Sadly, even indie bands these days with a moderate amount of success need to keep their day jobs...
This is a bit off topic but the op made me think of the word propinquity (I like words and this is a really good one). I learned in a psych class that propinquity is -
“the tendency of individuals to form close relationships with people they repeatedly encounter. That is, the more often one comes into contact with another person, the more likely it is that one will form a friendship or romantic relationship with that person. For example, next-door neighbors often are friends with one another, as are classmates and coworkers, respectively”. (APA).
But when I googled propinquity a few minutes ago the first thing that cam up was this-
“Propinquity theory tells us that the more often people see your content, the better they get to know you. This makes sense. Each time someone is exposed to your content, they are interacting with you, your thoughts and belief”(copyblogger.com).
It seems the propinquity effect used to be about serendipity and happenstance bringing people together and now it may be more of an internet effect that can be used to “influence” and attract an online readership.
“the tendency of individuals to form close relationships with people they repeatedly encounter. That is, the more often one comes into contact with another person, the more likely it is that one will form a friendship or romantic relationship with that person. For example, next-door neighbors often are friends with one another, as are classmates and coworkers, respectively”. (APA).
But when I googled propinquity a few minutes ago the first thing that cam up was this-
“Propinquity theory tells us that the more often people see your content, the better they get to know you. This makes sense. Each time someone is exposed to your content, they are interacting with you, your thoughts and belief”(copyblogger.com).
It seems the propinquity effect used to be about serendipity and happenstance bringing people together and now it may be more of an internet effect that can be used to “influence” and attract an online readership.
I remember them from my college days, I thought they were from Austin or maybe they just came to Austin a lot?
No need to comment (applies to me saying this too). A book or forum you can put down when you want, a person can follow you all the way to Wal-mart (reference to a story of a local freak who clearly feels the opposite way you do on this subject). You don't have to make eye contact or worry about tics with books or art or forums. I have always found those things to be human interactions but not contact. Some of the most profound (some is the key word, as in not most, more, rarest, or rarer but some) interactions I have a had with people have been online, or through art. But contact,.
I love the whole contactless delivery thing. Especially with groceries. Only problem is occasionally you get produce you would have skipped and got something else if the grapes or whatever were so janky.
Also your self image contradicts others impressions of you by the way. I mean that's all of us but usually it's not quite that easy to point out.
And remember the world needs freaks, who else is going to make a decent medicine man.
A lot of bands came to Austin a lot. But a lot of bands are from Austin too. I on the other hand can't place the band at all.
I just remember the name because it was very fitting for that era of indie rock. A lot of similar or odd names. I think, if I recall correctly, I lived right below the guitar players apartment for a time. I think he was one of the many guitarists that played with them. I could very well be misremembering too. The only thing I really learned in college was how to drink a large amount of beer.
My friends and I had a radio show at Texas State (Southwest Texas at the time) which was a lot of fun! We had to be well versed on all the latest indie acts. It was really the only thing I took seriously (unfortunately) while in college.
Well, he told me they met in collage (like a lot of bands did) in either Philadelphia or Boston, I forget which. Not sure how he landed here (NYC) though. Know what band from Austin I liked for a not so hot minute but annoying the hell out of me know, Spoon.
Austin must of been fun back then- but like the place which I am typing from, sounds like it sucks now due to all the usual reasons places like that start to suck. Once people start printing and selling things like "Keep Austin Weird" it pretty much means the place is no longer really so unique but, maybe I'm wrong about Austin but I don't have enough money to really find out...
Social media seems to of pretty much ended the ability for interesting communities to develop and remain interesting...as soon as something cool starts to happen someone influential in that echo chamber seizes on it so they have some new content to push and suddenly it's a destination for people who aren't adventitious enough for their own adventures.
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Yup, you nailed it with Austin, it’s definitely not the same city it was in those days, I remember the older folks saying the same though, haha. Yeah, I’m probably thinking of another band to be honest, something with a pretty long name. Oh well.
I know what you mean about Spoon, I haven’t enjoyed a newer album of theirs in a long time, they’ve just been average. Their early albums are where the magic is at. I’ve seen them live more times than I can remember but I rembember seeing them at Emos on 6th St. for $5 at the door. The most memorable show was when the band Cake opened up for them. What an awesome show! Remember Cake? I still like this guys.
Something about the main dude from Spoon, Brett?, I find really annoying and arrogant...
Yes, I remember Cake and their "short skirt and long jacket"... I'm sure they were fun live. Do you know Lambchop? I bet they played Austin a bit. I only got into them on their FLOTUS album and saw them live that tour- they put on a great show.
I love Lambchop! I’ve never seen them live though. Thanks for the reminder, I haven’t listened to them in a long time. They have that Tindersticks vibe (haven’t listened to them in a min either).
If you like that style, you should check out Thomas Feiner & Anywhen. They only released one album and he released a revised version of it called The Opiates Revisited. He is also in a band called Exit North which was an amazing find for me as he’s a hermit and doesn’t promote his work very well, but he’s a brilliant singer/songwriter. Exit North are working on a new album too. He’s got a voice like David Sylvian of Japan/Nine Horses. Steve Jansen of Japan/Nine Horses is also in Exit North. I’m a big fan of Sylvian’s work too.
Anyway, your mention of Lambchop brought all this up, so you may already know about Feiner/Sylvian/Jansen. If not, I highly recommend pretty much all their work. Sylvian doesn’t really sing much anymore, he’s gotten into more spoken word, experimental stuff, still good but if you are new to his work, I’d suggest starting with Nine Horses. I love Japan but their tunes could be considered dated, Nine Horses is timeless. I imagine most people here have heard Japan at some point in their life, even if they don’t recognize that name, they had a good bout of fame in the early 80’s.
Tell him some dude on the pipe forum loves the song Coming Down and blasts it to this day.
I like Sylvian's solo stuff more than Japan although I haven't listened to that much of either but I should.
I don't know the Thomas Feiner & Anywhen stuff you mentioned but look forward to checking it out. Actually, I was listening to the playlist the other day that Ryuichi Sakamoto put together before he died and it included a Sylvian track. Love the guy's voice but it gets a bit heavy after a while...
I recall when the Tindersticks album was at those CD stations that places like Borders Books but I think I bought a Mercury Rev CD instead. This sort of relates to the topic as those were really good places to flirt with women while listening to music.
I don't really listen to much guitar based music these days but... I started watching the Grateful Dead documentary the other day and it's great. Made me appreciate the band and Jerry in a totally different way. Have you seen it?
You know, I just recently found out Ryuichi Sakamoto died in March. I love his stuff, mainly when I’m reading or studying. He and Sylvian did some great work together, I love that song! Secrets of the Beehive is a favorite of mine. One of my favorite Fennesz songs was with Sylvian, it’s on the album Venice, the song is called Transit, I’ll try to link it below.
I have been really enjoying this album by Ryuchi as well, I’m sure you’ve heard it, came out just before he died. It’s a great album to sit back and ponder life while smoking some good tobacco.
I haven’t seen the Grateful Dead documentary, no. What is it called? Is it on Prime? They usually have a lot of good documentaries on bands. I’d like to check it out. I’ve never really been a huge fan of theirs but they’ve always interested me, they’ve had a profound influence on a lot of my favorite bands, I’m always interested to know what my favorite bands favorite bands are, haha.
You’ve got good taste in music, not many people have even heard of Ryuichi Sakamoto. My brother is a huge fan of his. He thinks Async is the best album ever made, I don’t necessarily agree with him but if the circumstances are right, it can really move you. I have to be in a certain mood to really digest his music, it can be quite somber but I am often attracted to sad/somber music.
I was thinking the same of you when you posted that Fennesz track above. Got into him a few years ago. He came through here last year and I considered going but figured it would of probably of been a rather boring show. Some stuff just doesn't translate well to live performances and I hate walking away from a show of someone I like feeling like the life was drained out of me from boredom.
I started listening to Yellow Magic Orchestra maybe 5 years ago...but tend to listen more to their solo stuff these days. I am attracted to somber music as well. Are you familiar with Scott Walker? I watched the documentary on him a couple weeks ago and it was probably the best documentary on any musician I have seen so I've been back into listening to those later albums of him but... I find them to be as draining as they are rewarding.
Yeah, Scott Walker is an interesting man! That was an amazing documentary, I need to watch it again. His newer albums are nightmarish, sometimes just downright creepy but it’s cool stuff, more sonic art rather than music, I would imagine most people would think he’s off his rocker if they listened to his new stuff. I really like the newer stuff but again, I really have to be in the mood because it’s some dark shit! I like his early albums, even the Walker Brothers. Mark Lanegan in The Gutter Twins covered his song Duches, which is really a perfect song for him to sing, he really did it justice.
Another good act that you may be familiar with from Austin is Stars of the Lid, they are defunct now but one of them teamed up with Dustin O’Halloran and started up A Winged Victory for the Sullen. It’s not Stars of the Lid but it’s some great ambient music, they were very influenced by Brian Eno’s ambient works.
I’m actually not familiar with Yellow Magic Orchestra, I will check them out. What’s an entry level album you recommend? Wait, I just took a glimpse, was Ryuichi in that group???
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I haven't been keeping up with the news—I had no idea Ryuichi Sakamoto died this year. I used to buy YMO's albums in the early '80s; I've got one or two David Sylvian albums (probably discovered him through Fripp) and remember seeing Tindersticks at an Other Music in-store down the street from Tower Records in Manhattan when Curtains came out (they signed my LP—I might've gotten another while I was there). I wish my stereo and LPs weren't in boxes. One of these days, when the house is done.
I haven't been keeping up with the news—I had no idea Ryuichi Sakamoto died this year. I used to buy YMO's albums in the early '80s; I've got one or two David Sylvian albums (probably discovered him through Fripp) and remember seeing Tindersticks at an Other Music in-store down the street from Tower Records in Manhattan when Curtains came out (they signed my LP—I might've gotten another while I was there). I wish my stereo and LPs weren't in boxes. One of these days, when the house is done.