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Franco Pipenbeans

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Hello everyone,

I’ve just bought an estate 303 (I think it’s a 303 - see picture below) Peterson in need of a new stem.

Does anyone know where I can get one from? Ideally in the U.K. and ideally cheap.

Petersons don’t seem to have them on their site.

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Just googled this listed below. It’s not in the UK, but maybe you can call Smokingpipes EU if that works better for you? Or maybe you can call Peterson’s and see if they’ll ship you one? ☕

 
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Just googled this listed below. It’s not in the UK, but maybe you can call Smokingpipes EU if that works better for you? Or maybe you can call Peterson’s and see if they’ll ship you one? ☕

I ordered one of those for my Peterson 309, although the 309 is a system pipe the replacement stem was too small in diameter to be useful. I don't think all system pipes were created equal over the years. Suggest checking the diameter of a replacement stem to see if it matches the original stem prior to ordering.

IIRC Peterson at one time offered a re-stemming service, though it was pretty expensive, 2-3 times more than what a competent pipe repair man would charge. Might be worth investigating if you want a genuine Peterson stem. Good luck.
 

Hillcrest

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Agree with above but ... what's wrong with stem you have ? Are you sure that's an original stem ? It looks a tad big (width diameter) for that pipe maybe its already a replacement but I am no expert ... ergo ... I agree with above.
 
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You can get a new replacement stem from Petersons. You'll have to send the pipe to their factory in sallynoggin. It'll cost yo 36€ for the stem plus 7€ for return postage.
Might be. a little bit cheaper from one of the British pipe makers/restorers but not by much.
 

Franco Pipenbeans

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You can get a new replacement stem from Petersons. You'll have to send the pipe to their factory in sallynoggin. It'll cost yo 36€ for the stem plus 7€ for return postage.
Might be. a little bit cheaper from one of the British pipe makers/restorers but not by much.
Jeez, by the time I spend that, I would have been better off buying a new one!

I’m going to leave it in a drop of brandy and see if that revives it, that used to work wonders in the old days so hopefully it is still efficacious.

Ah well, lesson learnt I suppose. ??‍♂️
 
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Hillcrest

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"I’m going to leave it in a drop of brandy and see if that revives it, that used to work wonders in the old days so hopefully it is still efficacious."

I'm confused as to what problem you are trying to solve. What are you going to drop in Brandy ... the stem ? Does the stem not fit tight ? Make a cup of tea and hold the stummel/shank over the steam for about 6 to 8 seconds ... the wood dried out from sitting; or just smoke it.

Also It doesn't look like my 303 which is half that height ... my guess is that's a 312. But again, I am no Peterson expert. I wish you all the best success in your efforts to revive it. It looks like and excellent piece of vintage briar to me from the one photograph.
 

Franco Pipenbeans

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"I’m going to leave it in a drop of brandy and see if that revives it, that used to work wonders in the old days so hopefully it is still efficacious."

I'm confused as to what problem you are trying to solve. What are you going to drop in Brandy ... the stem ? Does the stem not fit tight ? Make a cup of tea and hold the stummel/shank over the steam for about 6 to 8 seconds ... the wood dried out from sitting; or just smoke it.

Also It doesn't look like my 303 which is half that height ... my guess is that's a 312. But again, I am no Peterson expert. I wish you all the best success in your efforts to revive it. It looks like and excellent piece of vintage briar to me from the one photograph.
Well, here’s my admission of a school boy error.

There were some brown stains, from lips and teeth chatter, around the lip of the stem and I thought “I don’t really want that in my mouth, Lord knows who’s mouth it’s been in” so I did my research into the best way to clean it up and one suggestion was to use toothpaste.

That seemed like a good idea, why not? After all toothpaste brightens teeth and removes stains and all that so, sacrificing my toothbrush, I set to giving it a polish.

“That looks great now” I thought, all glossy and black with a hint of minty freshness so, on auto pilot, I rinsed the brush and then, without thinking, cleaned off the toothpaste with the wet tooth brush and ? the dreaded oxidation happened instantaneously.

I then went at with a magic sponge and some olive oil asap but there was that tell tale taste of sulphur. ???‍♂️

After some fairly choice, industrial language that would have put some dockers and coal miners to shame, I thought “You idiot - that was a perfectly good stem before you tried to ‘fix’ it!”

More in hope than in good judgement, I hope that a quick brandy bath would arrest the oxidation at the least.

I don’t want to bleach it and get it all pitted up and I don’t have buffing pads and micro grain sandpapers etc.

I was kind of thinking that Peterson’s would have different stems for sale because I presumed that the bowls would out live the stems by some margin and many pipers would want to replace them over their smoking lives. Rather stupidly I presumed that you might be able to pick one up for cheap, after all, the factory must pump out thousands of stems every month, not realising that I’m staring down the barrel of a £25 replacement from them. ??‍♂️

I could have bought a new Peterson for that and what I paid for it on a well known auction site, and I was trying to get one on the cheap - lesson learnt; just buy a new one because estate pipes are so hit and miss and I am not a pipe repair expert, as you might be able to tell.

As for which pipe it is, I’m purely guessing from the below Peterson’s shape guide; any help in this regard would be gratefully received.

yours sincerely,

Rubbish Pipe Repairs.
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Hillcrest

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Well, here’s my admission of a school boy error.

... ? the dreaded oxidation happened instantaneously.

I then went at with a magic sponge and some olive oil asap but there was that tell tale taste of sulphur. ???‍♂️



As for which pipe it is, I’m purely guessing from the below Peterson’s shape guide; any help in this regard would be gratefully received.

yours sincerely,

Rubbish Pipe Repairs.
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Relax and be patient with yourself you haven't done anything wrong except discover some science by accident !!
Here's my suggestion:

Wash the stem lightly in some dishsoap like when you do dishes by hand. Dry it. Then take a piece of papertowel and spray some windex on it or your equivalent of basic window cleaner... (mild soap and ammonia not foam spray) rub it down until brown mostly goes away.
This might take about 3-5 mins periodically folding the papertowel and wiping. Then dry it and take some butcher block oil, or food grade mineral oil or Obsidian Oil (which is FG Min Oil) and rub it down then take some bees wax and wax it to basic shine (Personally I use Burt's Bees Lip Balm which is beeswax base and cheap with a minty flavor although you can get many other flavors now.

Exposure to sun and water causes the sulpher in the hard rubber vulcanite to surface that's why some prefer acrylic stems. Vulcanite just requires some peridic cleaning. I did the above on a heavily oxidized stem (literally green) and now I only have to clean the part that goes in the mouth once a week or so with same method. In fact I left a small band of oxidation near the shank and it looks like a jade band on the pipe and, I think, makes the pipe look better ... like those horn stem bands ! call me crazy but I like it.

In fact you could probably take a little Murphys Oil soap and damp rag and wipe down the outside of the bowl and re-wax it lightly to bring out some of the grain. Yours looks a little darker than new but you could probably shine it up nice.

Ten minutes of work and I think you'll really like your new pipe. If you want to clean the inside then use the salt method. Ream any coating out as necessary (don't scrape into briar); brush out; fill bowl and shank with dry salt (I use sea salt because i have it) add a few drops of alcohol (rubbing or vodka or whiskey) and let sit overnight 24 hours.); brush and blow out salt. Load and smoke.
The salt absorbs all the oils, tannons, tar and nicotine residue and it will appear like new.

All this information is on this site elsewhere and better described by more knowledgeable people ---- thats how i learned ---- thats how we all learn.

Couragio ! Into the Breach ! or bowl as the case may be !!! Best of luck and HAVE FUN ! Othersie its not enjoyable pastime !!!

The hardest part is waiting 24 hours to smoke your new pipe if you clean bowl.

Seriously Best wishes ! Good luck !
 

Franco Pipenbeans

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Relax and be patient with yourself you haven't done anything wrong except discover some science by accident !!
Here's my suggestion:

Wash the stem lightly in some dishsoap like when you do dishes by hand. Dry it. Then take a piece of papertowel and spray some windex on it or your equivalent of basic window cleaner... (mild soap and ammonia not foam spray) rub it down until brown mostly goes away.
This might take about 3-5 mins periodically folding the papertowel and wiping. Then dry it and take some butcher block oil, or food grade mineral oil or Obsidian Oil (which is FG Min Oil) and rub it down then take some bees wax and wax it to basic shine (Personally I use Burt's Bees Lip Balm which is beeswax base and cheap with a minty flavor although you can get many other flavors now.

Exposure to sun and water causes the sulpher in the hard rubber vulcanite to surface that's why some prefer acrylic stems. Vulcanite just requires some peridic cleaning. I did the above on a heavily oxidized stem (literally green) and now I only have to clean the part that goes in the mouth once a week or so with same method. In fact I left a small band of oxidation near the shank and it looks like a jade band on the pipe and, I think, makes the pipe look better ... like those horn stem bands ! call me crazy but I like it.

In fact you could probably take a little Murphys Oil soap and damp rag and wipe down the outside of the bowl and re-wax it lightly to bring out some of the grain. Yours looks a little darker than new but you could probably shine it up nice.

Ten minutes of work and I think you'll really like your new pipe. If you want to clean the inside then use the salt method. Ream any coating out as necessary (don't scrape into briar); brush out; fill bowl and shank with dry salt (I use sea salt because i have it) add a few drops of alcohol (rubbing or vodka or whiskey) and let sit overnight 24 hours.); brush and blow out salt. Load and smoke.
The salt absorbs all the oils, tannons, tar and nicotine residue and it will appear like new.

All this information is on this site elsewhere and better described by more knowledgeable people ---- thats how i learned ---- thats how we all learn.

Couragio ! Into the Breach ! or bowl as the case may be !!! Best of luck and HAVE FUN ! Othersie its not enjoyable pastime !!!

The hardest part is waiting 24 hours to smoke your new pipe if you clean bowl.

Seriously Best wishes ! Good luck !
I will try that in the morning. I’ve got some bees wax polish somewhere. ?

Thanks for the advice Hillcrest. ??✌?
 

Hillcrest

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I will try that in the morning. I’ve got some bees wax polish somewhere.

Thanks for the advice Hillcrest. ??✌?
Anytime ! That's a big part of this forum ...the other parts are oogling new pipes, comparing tobacco, complaining, griping, joking , other toys, cartoons, cool movies and occasional back pain gripes !

Let us know how it smokes when you're done and what tobacco you're smoking and how you like it. Also you may have to clean out shank every couple months if you smoke wet tobaccos. I like my Petersons. All the best ?puffy
 

Franco Pipenbeans

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Anytime ! That's a big part of this forum ...the other parts are oogling new pipes, comparing tobacco, complaining, griping, joking , other toys, cartoons, cool movies and occasional back pain gripes !

Let us know how it smokes when you're done and what tobacco you're smoking and how you like it. Also you may have to clean out shank every couple months if you smoke wet tobaccos. I like my Petersons. All the best ?puffy
I’ve already done the bowl with salt and Napoleons brandy over night so that should be good today.

I’ll try your other recommendations today and, ?, we’ll be on with a good bowl of something non-ghosting to start with…maybe some DeLuxe Navy Roll or some St Bruno. ?

In fairness, the pipe is a lot smaller than I presumed it would be; it’s difficult to tell from a photo online how big something is, even with a quarter or a 10p piece next to it. I don’t know why but I was thinking it would be bigger, like the Hansom in the Sherlock Holmes series but I like the smallness of it so far.
 

Hillcrest

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@Hillcrest - do you have any recommendations for getting the sulphur taste out from inside the stem?
I have never had that problem but I have only ever used pipe cleaners and alcohol inside the stem until they come out clean. It might not be sulphur but built up tar.
As for shape you may have an old 303 I can't tell it just seems the bowl is a bit taller than mine. Here's a pic of a 303 and you can see your photo the bowl seems taller than the shank so I guessed a 312 which, I think, is akin to a savinelli 614 small full bent billiard. But I am no expert and they have too many shapes over time.

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Franco Pipenbeans

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@Hiilcrest - what is this witchcraft!! I’ve use the soapy water, window cleaner and olive oil; my beeswax had lemon oil in it so I wasn’t sure if this would be suitable?

it was heavily oxidised so after thirty minutes of rubbing away at it, I’ll let it sit for 24 hours and then have another round tomorrow?

see the pictures attached for a progress update.


As you can see, the reverse of the stem was the condition the front of the stem was in before I started the process.

I’m not sure it will be as good as new though?


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Hillcrest

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Looks good so far but that stem is pretty oxidized ... about what mine was. There are professional cleaners for that purpose you can buy ... use the search bar above for searching cleaning oxidized stem and you will find references to stuff you can buy online to soak it. Mine only took maybe ten minutes with windex though. As for size yours may be a 317.
Maybe try one of those scratch free scouring pads for teflon coated pans like 'scotch bright' or whatever your equivalent is there ...

This site might assist with identification and with cleaning methods.
Its very good and detailed and you can search his other restorations as well :

Cleaning up a Peterson 312 System Pipe - https://rebornpipes.com/2014/11/09/cleaning-up-a-peterson-312-system-pipe/

Elbow Grease makes the world go round !
 
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Franco Pipenbeans

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Looks good so far but that stem is pretty oxidized ... about what mine was. There are professional cleaners for that purpose you can buy ... use the search bar above for searching cleaning oxidized stem and you will find references to stuff you can buy online to soak it. Mine only took maybe ten minutes with windex though. As for size yours may be a 317.
Maybe try one of those scratch free scouring pads for teflon coated pans like 'scotch bright' or whatever your equivalent is there ...

This site might assist with identification and with cleaning methods.
Its very good and detailed and you can search his other restorations as well :

Cleaning up a Peterson 312 System Pipe - https://rebornpipes.com/2014/11/09/cleaning-up-a-peterson-312-system-pipe/

Elbow Grease makes the world go round !
Thank you.