Removing oxidation from vulcanite stems.

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Lifer
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Have you seen this red stuff? I don't know how well you can see from the photo, but it was a very thick and hard, dark red oxidation with a few white crystals on the surface... I would guess a combination between material formula, climate and maybe even some contaminant. I have seen it on old unsmoked pipes only. Very hard to take off...
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It’s a Parker, so it’s the brownish stuff. That’s a better quality rubber and will clean up nice. I would say the white stuff is environmental.
 

georged

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Vulcanite quality runs the spectrum from still looks like black glass after 90 years, to bite zones that will turn military drab green 24 hours after getting saliva on them (and the entire stem a few months later), and everything in between

Not to mention voids and inclusions. Some have none, others are like Swiss cheese with bits-O-crap throughout (often metal chips).

The pipe's brand or grade within a brand doesn't necessarily matter, either. (While cheap pipes never have good rubber, expensive ones don't necessarily have it.)

Bottom line? There are far too many variables for a given "system" to keep black, black. Except for one: Clean thoroughly after every use with tissue paper followed by a microfiber cloth, and then store in complete darkness. Either a light-tight cabinet or drawer, or pipe sock made from dense material.
 

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I enlarged the FOX pic a lot. Looks like that crud is actually pitting the rubber. Haven’t seen that before.
You see how crisp the logo of the Parker was- it was almost gone after the oxy bath and steel wool and I am sure that most of it was heavily pitted and structurally made out of the reddish oxidation
 

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Vulcanite quality runs the spectrum from still looks like black glass after 90 years, to bite zones that will turn military drab green 24 hours after getting saliva on them (and the entire stem a few months later), and everything in between

Not to mention voids and inclusions. Some have none, others are like Swiss cheese with bits-O-crap throughout (often metal chips).

The pipe's brand or grade within a brand doesn't necessarily matter, either. (While cheap pipes never have good rubber, expensive ones don't necessarily have it.)

Bottom line? There are far too many variables for a given "system" to keep black, black. Except for one: Clean thoroughly after every use with tissue paper followed by a microfiber cloth, and then store in complete darkness. Either a light-tight cabinet or drawer, or pipe sock made from dense material.
In my and a few other friend's experience - one of the best quality vulcanite, one that is easy to deoxidize and stays black longer is found on old french pipes. The one mark of this specific vulcanite are the sprinkle of white/metal dots all over - apparently added lead particles. Still doing research on the subject.
P.S. the metal particles are not the reason for the good performance, just a tell sign for a specific time period, formula or factory.
 

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I enlarged the FOX pic a lot. Looks like that crud is actually pitting the rubber. Haven’t seen that before.

I enlarged the FOX pic a lot. Looks like that crud is actually pitting the rubber. Haven’t seen that before.
I have, an old Grabow I own has it.

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I did some Wilmer's for Cigrmaster, someof those stems had pits.
 

Chris T

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I'd suggest a paradigm shift. With time and dedication the vulcanite will develop a delightful patina, like properly used silverware, which enhances the stem's character and appearance. Wear it proudly.
 
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I'd suggest a paradigm shift. With time and dedication the vulcanite will develop a delightful patina, like properly used silverware, which enhances the stem's character and appearance. Wear it proudly
Perfect solution for display pipes, you loose me though if I have to put the pipe in my mouth🤢
 

K.E. Powell

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Slightly off topic, but seeing photos in this thread of old, heavily oxidized stems, makes me rethink my opinions on vulcanite stems. I usually prefer acrylic because they are easier to maintain and keep shiny. But some of those oxidized stems look beautiful in all their wear and tear. I always endeavor to take good care of my pipes, but I think I am going to stop worrying about oxidation so much. I think there is a beauty to it. Sentimental, I know.
 

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Slightly off topic, but seeing photos in this thread of old, heavily oxidized stems, makes me rethink my opinions on vulcanite stems. I usually prefer acrylic because they are easier to maintain and keep shiny. But some of those oxidized stems look beautiful in all their wear and tear. I always endeavor to take good care of my pipes, but I think I am going to stop worrying about oxidation so much. I think there is a beauty to it. Sentimental, I know.
All of the stems I showed were or will be completely deoxidized before they see any kind of use. Just FYI
 

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Seriously though, all I've ever used for polish is toothpaste, and followed up with stem oil. Takes some scrubbing but it works well.
There are a lot of very simple things that would work very well if combined with a small doze of prevention, but only for stems that have been completely deoxidized and then taken care of. On the other side some of the stems I showed haven't been used in over 50 years - absolutely nothing will work on them if you don't physically remove the thick layer of oxidation first.