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Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
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Slidell, LA
All my life, New Whore Leans (hillbilly pronunciation) has been famous for Bourbon Street whores and cross dressers and and general debachery , sin, vice, corruption, danger and a place were the whiskey and blood flow together down the streets. In fact all Louisiana has somewhat of that Sodom and Gommarah reputation

When my mother and I visited in 1977 a drag queen in a bar commented on how lovely my mother’s complexion was while I moved over as far away as I could, but he wasn’t interested in me.:)

I’m sure their coffee still sucks and is laced with chicory and the horse drawn carriages haul the tourists around to see dead people piled up high above ground.

But has New Orleans sobered up some?

Xxxx

Louisiana ranks 31st in the nation for excessive drinking, reporting that 17.4% of the state's adults are binge drinking (four or more drinks on one occasion in the past 30 days for females, or five or more for males) or heavily drinking (eight or more drinks per week for females, or 15 or more for males).


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Oil and gas and international trade have lifted all boats in Cajun country.

When people are happier they sin a lot less, you know?

It’s

Pumped a lot of (pro)pane in New Whore Leans.:)

Proud Mary

Why, thank you for the lovely recommendation of New Orleans as a vacation spot.

If New Orleans only ranks 31st in the nation for excessive drinking, the study must have been conducted during the summer and not during football season or Mardi Gras.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
It was perhaps 9 or 10 years ago when I asked one of the county prosecutors why she had so many files packed in her office that she could hardly find her desk. She told me that far and away the majority of her cases were for DUI.

Lookie here:

Since 1982, drunk driving fatalities on our nation’s roadways have decreased 41%, while total traffic fatalities have declined 7%. Among persons under 21, drunk driving fatalities have decreased 73%. Despite this progress, we still have more work to do, and our commitment to eliminate drunk driving is stronger than ever. Hardcore drunk drivers continue to wreak havoc on our nation’s road accounting for nearly 67% of drunk driving fatalities, where there is a known alcohol-test result for the driver – a trend that has remained relatively unchanged for more than a decade.

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 40,901 people died in traffic crashes in 2023 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 12,429 people who were killed in drunk driving crashes involving a driver with an illegal BAC (.08 or greater). Among the people killed in these drunk driving crashes, an estimated two out of three were in crashes in which at least one driver in the crash had a BAC of .15 or higher.

Xxxx

The number of annual DWI arrests has been falling steadily for at least thirty years.

When j was city prosecutor in 83-85 I would never file a DWI under .011 and there was no administrative loss over .013 and most of my cases blew over .015—-which is drunk. Too drunk to drive.

Today the limit is .008 and you hardly see a DWI above .012. They are stopping buzzed drivers, not drunk drivers.

Then and now, the overwhelming number of drunk driving tragedy deaths are a drunken kid in single car accident. Old drunks kill themselves that way too, but there aren’t ballads written about it.:)

Don’t Tell Mama I Was Drinking

Gary Allan

 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
14,326
28,429
SE PA USA
I agree.
Reeks of sampling bias. But then again the surveys from prior years were probably equally biased.
Yes, it most likely hasn't been the same group year over year, so the whole thing is highly suspect.
However...the legalization of pot has cut into alcohol sales tremendously, so while someone may no longer be drinking too much, now they're potaholics.
 

Waning Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
47,718
128,975
New Whore Leans (hillbilly pronunciation)
Actually it's Nahlins. The younger crowd is getting their fix from their psychiatric pharmaceuticals that can have fatal consequences when mixed with alcohol, no need for a liquor store stop when a pill can soothe nerves. They're just a pill or two away from bliss and denial.
 

BronzeAgePiper

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 28, 2023
282
2,530
Boone>Wilmington
It’s not surprising as people have historically drank in times of celebration, and I imagine many wonder what’s left to even celebrate with so many illusions shattered and Rome burning. We used to burn with excess but now there seems to be an overall decline in vitality with us fatigued organisms. Long live the new flesh, now resume your scroll of doom.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
Why, thank you for the lovely recommendation of New Orleans as a vacation spot.

If New Orleans only ranks 31st in the nation for excessive drinking, the study must have been conducted during the summer and not during football season or Mardi Gras.

On January 1, 2025, at around 3:15 a.m. CST(UTC–6), Shamsud-Din Jabbar, a 42-year-old American man, drove a pickup truck into a crowd on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, Louisiana, United States, then exited the truck and engaged in a shootout with police before being fatally shot. Fourteen victims were killed, plus the perpetrator, and at least fifty-seven others were injured, including two police officers who were shot. The attack occurred during New Year celebrations in the city, which was scheduled to host the 2025 Sugar Bowl later that day.

abbar wore body armor during the attack.[12]Police officers recovered a .308 AR-10 rifle and Glock handgun.[a] The white Ford F-150 Lightning light-duty truck used in the attack had been rented using Turo, and had been observed in Humble, Texas, on the morning before the attack. Later that day, the truck was observed in Baytown, Texas, heading east on Interstate 10 toward New Orleans.[17] The truck was registered to a Houston man.[1][6]There was an Islamic State (ISIS) flag in the vehicle,[18][19] and on 9 January 2025 newspaper Al-Naba claimed responsibility for the attack.[20]

Xxxx

The gubbermint suicidal homicidal malcontent control officers and regulators seem to be asleep at the switch.

What if we all had the right to all the AR-10s and Glocks we wanted if we passed the same background check as for a Thompson sub machine gun using AI search engines that could flag out most of the crazies?

And once we had em’, we were strictly liable if they were misused by anybody.

Plus the police could remotely shut off all vehicles around parade and festival venues?

I’ll admit it’s a slippery slope.

But I’m afraid my mother would be too afraid today to take a 19 year old kid on a horse drawn daylight tour of of all the bars and drag clubs on Bourbon Street, you know?

Each joint had a two drink minimum and they all let the hansom cab driver drink for free.

Do they still do that, today?
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
It’s not surprising as people have historically drank in times of celebration, and I imagine many wonder what’s left to even celebrate with so many illusions shattered and Rome burning. We used to burn with excess but now there seems to be an overall decline in vitality with us fatigued organisms. Long live the new flesh, now resume your scroll of doom.

It is true, that the first miracle of our Master was at a wedding feast, at the request of his own Mama!

The Wedding at Cana

1And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: 2And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. 3And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. 4Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. 5His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it. 6And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. 7Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. 8And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. 9When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, 10And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. 11This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

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I used to quote those verses to my Mama, and she’d reply aren’t you glad your mother is always sober and would never ask you to show off that way making a passel of drunks even drunker.

And the father of the bride must have had a really ugly daughter he was glad to see married off.:)

It was hard to argue with her logic, you know?
 
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I'm a relatively old fart (mid 50s) and as a former party animal, I maybe have 1 drink every couple few weeks..
similar to others in my circle of friends demographic.. but then again we are all Christian too and theres a prohibition against being intoxicated.. a drink or two ok.. many drinks no bueno
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
14,326
28,429
SE PA USA
I hope that booze decline is actually the case. Im all for getting rid of it completely.
My mother enjoyed the occasional glass of wine. On happy, social events, she might have a glass and a half. She drew great enjoyment from socially sharing a glass with friends and family.

My father, on the other hand, came from a very long paternal line of alcoholics. Some of my antecedents drank themselves to death. Dad pretty much stopped drinking after he retired, except for my homebrew Belgians, which he adored. I like to think I’m somewhere between the two. These days I drink to enjoy, no more. That’s usually once glass of wine or two beers, 2 or 3 times a week. If work is busy, I can go a week or two. Even at pipe club, I seldom have more than two beers. Ten years ago, I could put away six and drive home. My father used to tell me that, as a family, we have a genetically high ability to tolerate, then quickly metabolize alcohol, but it decreases with age. I’ve warned my daughter about this, as my father warned me. It may be a key to alcoholism.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
I hope that booze decline is actually the case. Im all for getting rid of it completely.

Fans of the Louvin brothers know that Ira Louvin, was a raging alcoholic who had four wives (his third one shot him 8 times and he lived) and a racist, foul mouthed, hot tempered fool who cost the duo millions in l lost revenue. He died in the back of his brand new Cadillac (along with five other souls) in a whiskey soaked crash near Williamsburg Missouri at age 42.

Ira wrote or sang classic songs prohibitionists like mt mother and my grandmother just loved.

Price of the Bottle


Don’t Let Them Take the Bible Out of Our Schoolrooms


The Kneeling Drunkard’s Plea



Bottom of the Bottle

(Released posthumously)



His sober, square brother Charlie died at a ripe old age.

Carter Stanley, Red Foley, Keith Whitley, Tennessee Earnie Ford, Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, and other twanger legends died of pulling one too many corks.

Surprisingly there are many dry or “moist” counties left in the USA.

Mostly in the most backward, rural, poverty stricken miserable shit holes like Humansville Missouri has devolved into.

Dry county - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county

The Women’s Christian Temperance Union also still exists. It’s devolved into a sort of right wing extremist organization although without violence, not even a hatchet.:)



It is probably better to regulate than prohibit booze.

Even the dollar sized bottles of Fireball lining Humansville’s (and all the other economically ruined towns of the heartland) gutters are proof of wise regulation.

They taste good. Each little bottle has less alcohol than the Papst Blue Ribbons we used to drink. What else do those kids have to numb the pain of extreme poverty? And at a dollar a dose they are far cheaper than street drugs that will addict them and easily could kill them.
 

PaulRVA

The Gentleman From Richmond
I spent 32 years putting a lot of cuffs on Drunks, diffusing domestic situations and having to fight someone for a paycheck.
I’ve held someones hand on the side of the road when they took their last breath and watched a lot of good young men spend their youth in the custody of the State swinging ditch blades alongside highways and many family's destroyed by drinking.
I honestly hope it’s down and stays that way.
Everyone I know is a drinker and so was I so I’m no teetotaler by any means. My grandfather was not a drinker and he was seriously against alcohol however he kept some fine stock around for entertaining guests which always confused me. I never understood his reasoning until I spent so much of my life seeing what it has done to so many.
In all those years I never fought a Stoner.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,517
Humansville Missouri
My mother enjoyed the occasional glass of wine. On happy, social events, she might have a glass and a half. She drew great enjoyment from socially sharing a glass with friends and family.

My father, on the other hand, came from a very long paternal line of alcoholics. Some of my antecedents drank themselves to death. Dad pretty much stopped drinking after he retired, except for my homebrew Belgians, which he adored. I like to think I’m somewhere between the two. These days I drink to enjoy, no more. That’s usually once glass of wine or two beers, 2 or 3 times a week. If work is busy, I can go a week or two. Even at pipe club, I seldom have more than two beers. Ten years ago, I could put away six and drive home. My father used to tell me that, as a family, we have a genetically high ability to tolerate, then quickly metabolize alcohol, but it decreases with age. I’ve warned my daughter about this, as my father warned me. It may be a key to alcoholism.

George Catlin described the Osage Indians as the tallest and most handsome featured of all the Indians west of the Mississippi.

They weren’t nomadic, and lived in wooden homes in a land rivaling the Garden of Eden if the place had tics, chiggers, mosquitos, water moccasins and snapping turtles.:)

Scots Ozarkers like me usually claim a few Osage Indian princesses in our family tree (never flat footed bowlegged squaw women.:) ) and I have two Osage great great grandmothers.

It’s enough Indian blood to give me a mane of hair on my head but hardly anywhere else. I couldn’t grow any kind of beard that wouldn’t make me look like a wino in need of a shave.:)

But I was cautioned never to drink because of my distant Indian ancestry.


When I drank anyway, I was never very good at it. I couldn’t hold my liquor and the next day I always paid for it.

My wife took me to visit Pine Ridge Indian reservation about 24 years ago. Booze is outlawed there and they suffer alcoholism rates that are staggering.

Every one of my male ancestors, and their brothers, and cousins I can trace of the late 1800s was a United States cavalryman, involved in close combat with rebels and Bushwhackers and Indians. All died old men in their beds. One old cavalry man outlived several wives and abandoned some and lived in three centuries and his 80 year younger girlfriend may have murdered him at 107 for his pension, if she married him. My grandmother used to claim she did, the records aren’t clear. They seemed mad at her over not telling them her grandfather died.


There is a reason the Brits love their Scottish highland regiments.

The Osage got so oil rich in Oklahoma the government founded the FBI to stop whites from murdering them.


If you ever spend an afternoon at Pine Ridge, I guarantee you’ll never find a place poorer, more hopeless, and more ravaged by alcohol.

However many of them there are, we ought to pay each one a million or more dollars to move, then bulldoze it all and salt the earth.

One last injustice, or else in another 150 years it will all look the same as now, you know?
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
14,326
28,429
SE PA USA
Fans of the Louvin brothers know that Ira Louvin, was a raging alcoholic who had four wives (his third one shot him 8 times and he lived) and a racist, foul mouthed, hot tempered fool who cost the duo millions in l lost revenue. He died in the back of his brand new Cadillac (along with five other souls) in a whiskey soaked crash near Williamsburg Missouri at age 42.

Ira wrote or sang classic songs prohibitionists like mt mother and my grandmother just loved.

Price of the Bottle


Don’t Let Them Take the Bible Out of Our Schoolrooms


The Kneeling Drunkard’s Plea



Bottom of the Bottle

(Released posthumously)



His sober, square brother Charlie died at a ripe old age.

Carter Stanley, Red Foley, Keith Whitley, Tennessee Earnie Ford, Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, and other twanger legends died of pulling one too many corks.

Surprisingly there are many dry or “moist” counties left in the USA.

Mostly in the most backward, rural, poverty stricken miserable shit holes like Humansville Missouri has devolved into.

Dry county - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county

The Women’s Christian Temperance Union also still exists. It’s devolved into a sort of right wing extremist organization although without violence, not even a hatchet.:)



It is probably better to regulate than prohibit booze.

Even the dollar sized bottles of Fireball lining Humansville’s (and all the other economically ruined towns of the heartland) gutters are proof of wise regulation.

They taste good. Each little bottle has less alcohol than the Papst Blue Ribbons we used to drink. What else do those kids have to numb the pain of extreme poverty? And at a dollar a dose they are far cheaper than street drugs that will addict them and easily could kill them.
There were none better than the Louvin Brothers. Sometimes walking that line between the devil and salvation, pulled one way and then the other, is where great torment, and great art, in born.