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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
19,928
45,902
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Beautiful! It looks unsmoked! You could make 20 to 30 times what you paid for it.
Should you decide to fire it up, please be aware that an unsmoked pipe of this age presents a high risk of cracking on the first bowl.
The wood will be overly dry, and if stored in someone’s attic could take on the consistency of particle board.
If you want to smoke it you can reduce the risk by first coating the chamber with silicate, then super slow smoking, a few sips, let it go out, a few sips, let it go out, rinse and repeat, for the first dozen or more bowls while building up a carbon insulator over the chamber walls.
Always smoke slowly and don’t let the bowl get above warm and the pipe will likely be fine.
 

Raywli

Lurker
Mar 31, 2024
5
40
Beautiful! It looks unsmoked! You could make 20 to 30 times what you paid for it.
Should you decide to fire it up, please be aware that an unsmoked pipe of this age presents a high risk of cracking on the first bowl.
The wood will be overly dry, and if stored in someone’s attic could take on the consistency of particle board.
If you want to smoke it you can reduce the risk by first coating the chamber with silicate, then super slow smoking, a few sips, let it go out, a few sips, let it go out, rinse and repeat, for the first dozen or more bowls while building up a carbon insulator over the chamber walls.
Always smoke slowly and don’t let the bowl get above warm and the pipe will likely be fine.
Thanks for the information. Lots of issues I had not even considered. Will probably leave well alone. Cheers
 

runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,209
2,684
Washington State
That's incredible. I always try to talk sellers down at antique stores, but even at 100 I would have kept my mouth shut and given them my money as quickly as possible.
 

jaingorenard

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 11, 2022
608
2,894
Norwich, UK
That's an incredible find at that price (or, indeed, at any price). I've found some bargains over the past few years, but nothing as good as that...
 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,371
4,515
Interesting pipe and find.
I have a Salmon & Gluckstein with a silver band hallmarked for 1896 but the pipe could have been made as late as 1915. I smoked it one time and decided to not risk smoking again because of how hot it got.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
19,928
45,902
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Interesting pipe and find.
I have a Salmon & Gluckstein with a silver band hallmarked for 1896 but the pipe could have been made as late as 1915. I smoked it one time and decided to not risk smoking again because of how hot it got.
You bring up an interesting, though unrelated point, dating a pipe based on it's sterling hallmarks. All the hallmarks tell you is when the sterling was assayed, not when the pipe was made. We assume that the two events are concurrent, but they're not, and could vary by years.
 

runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,209
2,684
Washington State
Interesting pipe and find.
I have a Salmon & Gluckstein with a silver band hallmarked for 1896 but the pipe could have been made as late as 1915. I smoked it one time and decided to not risk smoking again because of how hot it got.
It's good to see someone state this and have a respected member agree with him. I used to keep a spreadsheet of Peterson silver hallmarked pipe dates, and there were often years where loads of bands were stamped, and then years where I couldn't find any examples.
 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,371
4,515
It's good to see someone state this and have a respected member agree with him. I used to keep a spreadsheet of Peterson silver hallmarked pipe dates, and there were often years where loads of bands were stamped, and then years where I couldn't find any examples.
This was explained to me by a real antique dealer (as opposed to one who one who runs an antique mall, which is just a step up from a flea market.)

He said that it was common for companies to order hundreds of silver fittings at a time and then wait until they had used most of them before ordering again. As @Sablebrush said, the hallmark just tells when the silver was assayed.
 

Raywli

Lurker
Mar 31, 2024
5
40
Sounds quite likely. Ordering silver fittings in small numbers would be expensive in comparison to bulk buys. The speed of use would be dependent on the production of pipes. I can see them lasting a couple of years but surely not 15 or 20 years.
 

runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,209
2,684
Washington State
Sounds quite likely. Ordering silver fittings in small numbers would be expensive in comparison to bulk buys. The speed of use would be dependent on the production of pipes. I can see them lasting a couple of years but surely not 15 or 20 years.
True, but if someone was looking around for something and accidentally found a box of 15 year old silver ferrules, I bet they brought them out and used them.
 

runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,209
2,684
Washington State
True, but if someone was looking around for something and accidentally found a box of 15 year old silver ferrules, I bet they brought them out and used them. Peterson supposedly quit stamping the faux-hallmark nickel ferrules in 1963, but I've found pipes with them that I feel were put together closer to 1970.
 

beerandbaccy

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 22, 2015
298
210
UK
Wow - what an amazing find, and what a great price! Did you feel a pang of guilt walking away only paying a measly score?
 

AroEnglish

Lifer
Jan 7, 2020
4,017
12,138
Midwest
What an amazing find! I don't ever plan to leave pipe unsmoked but if I owned this I might make an exception. Or I might get a shorter stem made and smoke it daily. One or the other.