Real Tobacco Blends vs Aromatics

[jpberg]

I vote that it's ok to say you hate something. Making this some sort of snowflake policy where we don't want to make someone cry or making this site some sort of "safe space" for tiny delicate hearts is stupid.

That said, I just want the cob smokers to stop washing my windshield at four way stops.

Lighten up on all of the virtue signaling. If an aromatic smoker reads Moriarty's post and runs off and slits their wrist... it most likely wasn't Moriarty's post that did it, but something deeper went wrong in that person.

While I appreciate you wanting to dust off the soapbox and get to it, I’m pretty sure I read that basically all “aromatics” suck.
That’s a dumb thing to say, and bringing British purity laws into it intensifies the dumb.
I know you’re old, but pay attention. And quit trying to compete with Warren for the wizened old generic statement award.
He’s got you hands down, man.

Edited to add, was there any snowflake in there?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Nope, to me Lakelands are just aromatics.
Casing refers to the sugars and/or flavorings added early on in the tobacco processing.
The term aromatic is used in the industry for a flavored/scented topping that is added as the last part of the process. It means that there are some non-aromatics that have more flavorings than some aromatics. It's ok to hate those too.

We don't have a term for an unadulterated non-flavored tobacco... which is a shame. But, there are some. I recently dumped 30 pounds of tobaccos out of my cellar for being a little more cased than I like. I probably should have given them to a cobsmoker, maybe the one who is always set up down by the interstate exit. And, some cardboard. These guys always love extra cardboard.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

While I appreciate you wanting to dust off the soapbox and get to it, I’m pretty sure I read that basically all “aromatics” suck.
That’s a dumb thing to say, and bringing British purity laws into it intensifies the dumb.
I know you’re old, but pay attention. And quit trying to compete with Warren for the wizened old generic statement award.
He’s got you hands down, man.

Edited to add, was there any snowflake in there?

So, is there anything wrong with me saying that all aromatics suck? I didn't bring purity laws into this Einstein, reread the thread before you go poking fingers into chests.

 

[jpberg]

So, is there anything wrong with me saying that all aromatics suck? I didn't bring purity laws into this Einstein, reread the thread before you go poking fingers into chests.

Are you tender, snowflake?

 

[Professor Moriarty]

While I appreciate you wanting to dust off the soapbox and get to it, I’m pretty sure I read that basically all “aromatics” suck.
That’s a dumb thing to say, and bringing British purity laws into it intensifies the dumb.
I know you’re old, but pay attention. And quit trying to compete with Warren for the wizened old generic statement award.
He’s got you hands down, man.

Edited to add, was there any snowflake in there?

All aromatics suck.
As does a lack of reading comprehension.

 

[jpberg]

All aromatics suck.
As does a lack of reading comprehension.

Well, at least it’s out there now.

 

[tobakenist]

The reason why some tobaccos are called English is because in my country (England) it was illegal to case tobacco, after WW1 we were able to import other tobaccos, some agreement with the USA, when growing up in the mid 50's and through the 60's most pipe smokers still smoked English blends, but where I grew up my town was 70 percent Scottish who worked in my towns Steelworks so I learnt about Scottish blends, no to dissimilar to English blends but some were cased with Whiskey and some were even cased with Heather, I still enjoy some Scottish blends. I have tried many aromatics over the years and enjoyed some but could never stick with them as my daily smoke. A lot of English and Balkan blends are made in Scandinavia now, so we should rename them. Thank god for my friends in Kendal.

 

[The Amish Tyrant]

English blends.

Name your king.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

The reason why some tobaccos are called English is because in my country (England) it was illegal to case tobacco, after WW1 we were able to import other tobaccos, some agreement with the USA, when growing up in the mid 50's and through the 60's most pipe smokers still smoked English blends, but where I grew up my town was 70 percent Scottish who worked in my towns Steelworks so I learnt about Scottish blends, no to dissimilar to English blends but some were cased with Whiskey and some were even cased with Heather, I still enjoy some Scottish blends. I have tried many aromatics over the years and enjoyed some but could never stick with them as my daily smoke. A lot of English and Balkan blends are made in Scandinavia now, so we should rename them. Thank god for my friends in Kendal.

Thank you for providing this excellent information, and a proper distinction between English and Scottish blends.
Now, what defines a Balkan blend? Balkan Sobranie (circa 1980's) was a favorite of mine--was also fond of Rattray's blends in that time period.

 

[shanez]

Before this thread degrades any further, to anyone reading this who likes latakia and is remotely curious about "aromatics" and wants to broaden their horizons, I'd recommend giving Bob's Chocolate Flake a try.

 

[Choatecav]

Back during the early part of the Reagan administration I started smoking cigars. At first they were Swisher sweets, Hav-a-tampa and others that had some type of fruity flavor. Got to where I despised them. Then, I switched to good cigars. I don't castigate anyone who likes them, but I don't.....

With pipes, it's pretty much the same. I like as little added flavor as possible.

Not sure why this has become a "hot" topic, but we sure have become a "thin-skinned" bunch....

But, as my dad used to say, "Some folks wouldn't be happy if you hung 'em with a new rope."

 

[lraisch]

Before this thread degrades any further, to anyone reading this who likes latakia and is remotely curious about "aromatics" and wants to broaden their horizons, I'd recommend giving Bob's Chocolate Flake a try.

I've tried it.
Definite chocolate flavor.
Definitely weird.
IMHO

 

[lraisch]

"He walked past the couch to the open window and held up the drooping stalk of a moss-rose, looking down at the dainty blend of crimson and green. It was a new phase of his character to me, for I had never before seen him show any keen interest in natural objects."

"There is nothing in which deduction is so necessary as in religion," said he, leaning with his back against the shutters. "It can be built up as an exact science by the reasoner. Our highest assurance of the goodness of Providence seems to me to rest in the flowers. All other things, our powers, our desires, our food, are all really necessary for our existence in the first instance."

But this rose is an extra. Its smell and its color are an embellishment of life, not a condition of it. It is only goodness which gives extras, and so I say again that we have much to hope from the flowers."

Perhaps someone could educate Holmes about the evolution of flowering plants. Attracting pollinators was necessary. Our perception of their beauty and cultivating them to be more visually appealing came later.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Name your king.

Uncertain of your meaning. What is my favorite blend?
I have already mentioned Dunhill's Early Morning. I am working currently working through old tins of Nightcap, 965, Lane's Crown Achievement (a US "English"), and a few others--one at a time--all of which have long been my faves.
In general, I prefer blends of Virginias with Orientals (especially Latakia), a little Perique is fine, and without any discernable flavoring, be it topping or casing.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Perhaps someone could educate Holmes about the evolution of flowering plants. Attracting pollinators was necessary. Our perception of their beauty and cultivating them to be more visually appealing came later.

Same thought. Holmes here waxes poetic, and his science suffers for it.

 

[mortonbriar]

In my experience:

If I am smoking predominantly tobacco forward blends for quite some time (particuarly whole leaf and home grown blends), and I dip back into a blatantly cased/flavoured/topped tobacco I find the artificial flavours a little assaulting to the palate, particularly the first bowl. If I go on and smoke a few more bowls of the flavoured blend within the same week then I find myself enjoying the 'aromatic' as much as I ever did in the past.

 

[condorlover1]

Well I guess that's Condor Plug, Cannon Plug and anything made by Gawith and Hogwarts out of your rotation then!

 

[Professor Moriarty]

In my experience:

If I am smoking predominantly tobacco forward blends for quite some time (particuarly whole leaf and home grown blends), and I dip back into a blatantly cased/flavoured/topped tobacco I find the artificial flavours a little assaulting to the palate

This! The "assault to the palate" which comes from tasting artificial flavors after becoming accustomed to natural tobaccos. Note the reverse is not true--no shock switching from aromatics to natural.

 

[WerewolfOfLondon]

Whenever anyone says, 'I'm not trying to start a fight', you know that is exactly what they're trying to do. Especially when they are espousing opinions that are notorious for starting fights. Now I have no problem with anyone starting fights, but just start the fight and be honest about it.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Whenever anyone says, 'I'm not trying to start a fight', you know that is exactly what they're trying to do. Especially when they are espousing opinions that are notorious for starting fights. Now I have no problem with anyone starting fights, but just start the fight and be honest about it.

There is no dishonesty in subtlety.