Real or Replica?
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Yes, that was the one shape I saw repeated. The rest though...
Faked pipes are a rarity, and never low end. Some of the better known fakes have included smooth "Dunhill" pipes stamped with a "shell" stamp, some Dunhills that were smuggled out of the factory and sold on the market back in the 80's, some one dot Sasieni's out of Italy, and some faked high end Danish pipes, like the faked Jess pipe that appeared on eBay about 7-8 years ago which, despite a huge number of warnings sent to eBay by collectors and dealers, sold for $8300. Add to that a number of faked Astley's pipes, where the original logo stamp was removed and an Astley's stamp applied.
Then there are the scammers, who list pipes, using images pulled from other listings, offering a $800 or more pipe for $20. One guy in China was doing this and I dogged him for a year, alerting eBay, who pulled listing after listing. That guy was pretty determined to screw over people.
Of course, people gullible enough to believe that they're going to get an Eltang for $20 have only themselves to blame, but I don't have to just watch it happen. God must love fools because he made so many of them.
Then there are the scammers, who list pipes, using images pulled from other listings, offering a $800 or more pipe for $20. One guy in China was doing this and I dogged him for a year, alerting eBay, who pulled listing after listing. That guy was pretty determined to screw over people.
Of course, people gullible enough to believe that they're going to get an Eltang for $20 have only themselves to blame, but I don't have to just watch it happen. God must love fools because he made so many of them.
$100 Nording #1 and $35 SON Sailor and Pear Wood Pipemaster 9mm filter pipe an assistant gave me for Christmas.
Pear wood makes a fantastic sweet smoking pipe.
The $35 SON also was a good smoker from the first bowl.
Since 1972, that $100 new gorgeous straight grain #1 Nording was the hottest, most bitter, horrible, stinking piece of young briar I’ve ever broken in, but it did break in, after two dozen smokes.
Pear wood makes a fantastic sweet smoking pipe.
The $35 SON also was a good smoker from the first bowl.
Since 1972, that $100 new gorgeous straight grain #1 Nording was the hottest, most bitter, horrible, stinking piece of young briar I’ve ever broken in, but it did break in, after two dozen smokes.
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if you keep up with the updates of new arrivals, he only has a handful of regular shapes excluding the freehands.freehand. Except for stem color and shank adornment, all of his pipes on SPC currently are what I regularly see of his. I'd love his work if it were larger.
Yeah I was surprised too, didn’t even resemble them, looked like junk. Neerups entry level line is about twice the price of a base Ropp, and goes up from there, maybe 130$ and up, but certainly worthwhile.
It was more just an EBay seller trying to scam off the name to a newbie, it wasn’t a fake as much as just mislabeling what looked like a cheap Chinese pipe.
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In the stem to bowl. i reversed cleaner and ran again. both sides came out with the black stain.
i have yet to swab the bowl.
I read a long time ago that in the old Danish factory of Stanwell, an aluminum original was made for each shape, and then a copying machine was used. Similar to a locksmith's copying machine.
Fraising is the term. Fraising machines have been fairly common in factories for decades
Oh, thanks, English isn't my language. Anyway, I think you're referring to a milling machine. I'm quite familiar with those. I went to an industrial school, regular school in the afternoon and an industrial workshop in the morning. So by the time I finished high school, I knew how to properly operate a lathe, a filing machine, a milling machine, weld, mold and cast metals, carpentry, etc. A very fun education, the only downside being that there were few girls. But I was referring to a specific type of milling machine that copies a mold, but I think I got lost in translation. Thanks.
ok just cleaned pipe again. This time folded cleaners in half (doubled up) and cleaned bowl. Then unfolded and used ends to clean stem again. Tip removed.
Here are pics. As others stated must be fully dipped into stain at factory. I will keep cleaning and drying until clear.
Here are pics. As others stated must be fully dipped into stain at factory. I will keep cleaning and drying until clear.
They are referred to as fraising machines in the pipe world and they follow a pattern, a mold, to create multiple copies of the same shape.
As far as working with lathes, etc. I did all that shit too and was a pretty decent cabinet maker.
Th black might just be a protective carbon coating. If so, you don't need it to protect the pipe if you break it in slowly. It also doesn't hurt to leave it in. If you aren't sure and want to remove it, I would do a 24 hr alcohol and cotton ball soak, let it dry out and then just smoke it and move on.
Scammers are looking for an easy buck. It's easier to just lie in the listing.
I've seen people claim that a pipe you could buy on smoking pipes for less the 200 hundred bucks was antique and worth so so much.
When you try paying for pride of ownership of a brand name, only buy from trusted sellers.
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I Wouldn’t Buy a Used Car From Him
The natural prey for scammers are people who are wannabe scammers themselves, as my boss at the jewelry store used to describe them, people "with larceny in their hearts".
More often than not, the victim thought that he was pulling a fast one on a clueless seller.